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Old 23rd February 2010, 11:40   #1
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I have a budget of 20k (25k pushed)

what can I do that would be the best bang for buck for my corolla's ICE ?

I need the HU to have USB.

I actually like the factory speakers provided, because some of my friends who have Blaupunkt, pioneer .. etc speakers tend to produce a lot of high frequency ( shrill ) sounds during the same track, which give me a serious headache and am sensitive towards that.
All it lacks is a good base level (according to me).

kindly suggest.
I would prefer to buy speakers/sub ( if needed ) in grey to save money.. to get a better HU.
thanks.
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I have a budget of 20k (25k pushed)
because some of my friends who have Blaupunkt, pioneer .. etc speakers tend to produce a lot of high frequency ( shrill ) sounds during the same track, I would prefer to buy speakers/sub ( if needed ) in grey to save money.. to get a better HU.
If you are looking for a laid back sound Consider this...
Kenwood HU about 7K with USB
Alpine, Infinity or Illusion Speakers about 12K for 2 6" components (front) and 2 6x9 coax (rear) (if using Illusion components you might need to get GZ 6x9s)
Piooner 6300, Kenwood 8404, JBL GT5 amp for about 6K
Wire and Install 3K
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7+12+6+3 = 28K!

ooops sorry we pushed your budget a bit. :-(

Some brands like JBL, Blaupunkt, Polk etc..have a brighter tonal character than others like Infinity, Alpine, etc...so listen to a few brands.

Also for about 3K more you can replace the 6x9s with a 10-12" subwoofer from say JBL in a sleaed box in the trunk. The rear speakers can be stock and powered by the HU while the amp will power the front components and subwoofer.
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Thanks, can you suggest a HU (model) ?
Is it the HU that decides the sound tone or the speakers ?
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Thanks, can you suggest a HU (model) ?
Is it the HU that decides the sound tone or the speakers ?
Oh mama, models and prices I am very poor at.

No most speakers have their own signature. Amplifers and Head units too. With a bit of tuning you can alter this "signature" a bit.
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Navin, Illusions have the worst Quality Control process on Earth. The Crossover I first got had a damaged Battery connection (Condenser?) and B&T was kind to immediately arrange for a new one (Nice Guy). Last week one of the mid-basses stopped working, diagnosis revealed that the Battery broke on its own.
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in that case, can anyone suggest a complete set ( HU + speakers + sub + amp ) which would have damped shrillness .

What company makes paper cone speakers ?
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in that case, can anyone suggest a complete set ( HU + speakers + sub + amp ) which would have damped shrillness .

What company makes paper cone speakers ?
HU: Kenwood 543 ~ 5k / 643 ~ 6.5 K(with bill)
Speakers: Bull Audio ~6-6.5k(with bill) / Hertz ESK - ~7-8k(with bill)
Wiring: Depending upon budget. Kits start from 1k
Amp: Blaupunkt MKII ~ 5k(grey) / Kenwood 845 ~ 6.5k(with bill) / JBL S644 ~ 6k(with bill)
Sub: JBL ~2.5-3k / Blaupunkt - ~3-4k

Both Hertz and Bull have paper cone speakers and you are most likely to prefer their sound as they r not shrilled / bright and have tweeter attenuation level.
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Navin, Illusions have the worst Quality Control process on Earth. The Crossover I first got had a damaged Battery connection (Condenser?) and B&T was kind to immediately arrange for a new one (Nice Guy). Last week one of the mid-basses stopped working, diagnosis revealed that the Battery broke on its own.
I am sorry ot hear that. I few I have heard sounded very nice.

The Midbass has a Battery?
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I am a complete noob when it comes to audio, how exactly does the quality of wiring matter ? ( signal loss ? )

and In-case i would like to save some money, what all can be bought in gery (doesnt usually go bad) ?

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..... Hertz ESK - ~7-8k(with bill).......
I find Hertz to be quite bright. Yes, I have JBLs, but I keep Treble on my HU at -4, if not lower.
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I find Hertz to be quite bright. Yes, I have JBLs, but I keep Treble on my HU at -4, if not lower.
New ones or OLD ones ? The new ones come with a 3 level attenuation.

-3, 0, +3

At -3 i would not call them bright...
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Navin Sir, they sound fantastic compared to my old 4" Sony speakers. There is no issue with the Sound atleast for me. The battery in the Crossover, not the Midbass.
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I find Hertz to be quite bright. Yes, I have JBLs, but I keep Treble on my HU at -4, if not lower.
I found the Hertz Hi Energy to be bright. JBL GTO too. GT5 is a little less bright. Infinity less so.

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-3, 0, +3
At -3 i would not call them bright...
Is that the GT5 or GTO?

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There is no issue with the Sound atleast for me. The battery in the Crossover, not the Midbass.
A battery in the XO?

B&T can you clarify this?
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Is that the GT5 or GTO?
I was talking about the 2009 Hertz Energy Series.
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A battery in the XO?

B&T can you clarify this?
Looks like an explanation from a roadside installer (battery in XO is dead), who even doesn't know what components are.
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