New Products for 2006 - Stuff to look out for

kb100 · 1st June 2006, 13:15

Well RSJ.. the SQ folks on most international forums are touting the P80RS as the best thing done by Pioneer yet... and also put the SQ much higher than the Alpines... In fact during my research I found that a lot of 9855 owners themselves have switched to this and are damn happy. In fact this is being put just under the Clarion DX2 and higher than the Eclipses!

Secondly this HU give you a plethora of tuning options for one to play around with - should one get so inclined/talented..

Thirdly.. I have heard either of them... So major handicap ... Have to go by public opinion..

Lastly Gunbir also recommended this...

aZa · 1st June 2006, 15:52

Kb yaar what u think bout this ?

kenwood K-CD01

Specifications

I'm planning on a complete SQ setup as a birthday gift for my dad... he hates loud bass.

kb100 · 1st June 2006, 16:12

looks good... but insanely priced I feel/...
Does have burr brown DACs but cant see any of the other features like TA etc.. For that price I will WANT them!!

Guru's can make more sense outta the specs

Did you get to check out the P80?

iraghava · 1st June 2006, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by kb100

looks good... but insanely priced I feel/...
Does have burr brown DACs but cant see any of the other features like TA etc.. For that price I will WANT them!!

Guru's can make more sense outta the specs

Did you get to check out the P80?

kb I think the price is 999 Australian $ not USD

kb100 · 1st June 2006, 16:36

I Know its AUD ... but still that too much money for too little HU!..

Secondly anyone who picks up anything in Australia is a lil mad... That place is WAYYYYYYY more expensice than Singapore... In a few instances that I know of - double!!

panky12345 · 1st June 2006, 20:54

i dont think I've seen this one in US. may be with a different model # but i fail to recollect!

aZa · 1st June 2006, 21:25

The P80 hasn't arrived at the dealer yet, he will let me know as soon as it comes, by next wednesday atleast as tuesday is a business holiday in Noida. I beleive the Kenwood has 24bit burr brown DACs for Left and right channels while p80 has only one. would this affect the sq by any means ?

navin · 1st June 2006, 23:31

Burr Brown DACs are not the holy grail. there is lot more to producing good sound from a CD than adding a 24bit BB DAC.

1. Platter stability
2. Filters (there quite a few)
3. Power supply and shielding (just ask Ken Ishiwata)

Autophile · 2nd June 2006, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by aZa

Kb yaar what u think bout this ?

kenwood K-CD01

Specifications

I'm planning on a complete SQ setup as a birthday gift for my dad... he hates loud bass.

Kenwood K-CD01 is from the reference line of Kenwood also know as emotion series. Which has limited distribution in Asia and Oceania hence not available in US and Europe.

It has K-Grade Burr Brown DA Convertors (hence K in K-CD01) which is one of the best in the Burr Brown catalog and they are using independent on Left/Right Channels with offset dual differential circuit. It is very good SQ HU without any bells and whistles. No EQ, fancy display, lights, no MP3 (stupidity to play when have Burr Brown DAC's), Detachable face. Just plain CD Player with Bass / Treble.

The Clarion DRZ-9255 is the only other HU which uses K-Grade DA Convertors, dual 24 Bit, 96kHz sampling along with electronic 0.5dB step Burr Brown volume control which is a treat

(quality of volume knob also plays a very important role in overall SQ).

There is a big difference in the price of DRZ-9255 and K-CD01. But then Clarion can do much more than Kenwood (Parametric Eq, Time Alignment, Configurable Crossover till 4-way active etc.)

If one wants Front + Rear + Sub setup then Kenwood is a very good option.

The other Kenwood HU's has the following :
XXV-01D - 24 Bit Burr Brown (No K Grade), with offset dual differential in front channels, time alignment.
KAC-8529 / 7529 - 24 Bit Burr Brown (No K-Grade)

Has not yet looked in the newer ones.

If SQ is the only objective and the he / she is serious, then one has to be very careful in choosing equipment and HU is very important component.

kb100 · 2nd June 2006, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autophile

If SQ is the only objective and the he / she is serious, then one has to be very careful in choosing equipment and HU is very important component.

JB.. Your comments on the P80RS pls...

Also which will you recommend Alpine 9855 or the P80RS?

Autophile · 2nd June 2006, 11:49

Go for P80RS without a doubt. No ways Alpine 9855 can touch P80RS on SQ. I will anyday go for the CD player with better DAC's and i rate Burr Brown as one of the best because other DAC's like Crystal, Wolfson are yet to be used in car audio.

aZa · 2nd June 2006, 13:23

Thanx again autophile!!

low_bass_makker · 12th June 2006, 11:44

Alpine enclosed sub....

The PLV-7 was named an Innovations Award winner at the 2006 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES).

http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/product...hp?model=PLV-7

slash_in · 13th June 2006, 14:21

Just a few of the products introduced by Lanzar in India..
this is a Lanzar OPTI1232D sub

Lanzar OPTICAP50 [COLOR=#003366]5.0 FARAD 24V Oval Neon Capacitor[/COLOR]

Bandpass systems

kb100 · 13th June 2006, 15:09

DAMN... that Band Pass looks cute!! ... wonder if it sounds as good as it looks!!..

1st June 2006, 13:15	#76
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	Well RSJ.. the SQ folks on most international forums are touting the P80RS as the best thing done by Pioneer yet... and also put the SQ much higher than the Alpines... In fact during my research I found that a lot of 9855 owners themselves have switched to this and are damn happy. In fact this is being put just under the Clarion DX2 and higher than the Eclipses! Secondly this HU give you a plethora of tuning options for one to play around with - should one get so inclined/talented.. Thirdly.. I have heard either of them... So major handicap ... Have to go by public opinion.. Lastly Gunbir also recommended this...
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1st June 2006, 15:52	#77
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Kb yaar what u think bout this ? kenwood K-CD01 Specifications I'm planning on a complete SQ setup as a birthday gift for my dad... he hates loud bass. Last edited by aZa : 1st June 2006 at 15:54.
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1st June 2006, 16:12	#78
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	looks good... but insanely priced I feel/... Does have burr brown DACs but cant see any of the other features like TA etc.. For that price I will WANT them!! Guru's can make more sense outta the specs Did you get to check out the P80? Last edited by kb100 : 1st June 2006 at 16:16.
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1st June 2006, 16:36	#80
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	I Know its AUD ... but still that too much money for too little HU!.. Secondly anyone who picks up anything in Australia is a lil mad... That place is WAYYYYYYY more expensice than Singapore... In a few instances that I know of - double!! Last edited by kb100 : 1st June 2006 at 16:44.
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1st June 2006, 20:54	#81
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 171 Times	i dont think I've seen this one in US. may be with a different model # but i fail to recollect!
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1st June 2006, 21:25	#82
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	The P80 hasn't arrived at the dealer yet, he will let me know as soon as it comes, by next wednesday atleast as tuesday is a business holiday in Noida. I beleive the Kenwood has 24bit burr brown DACs for Left and right channels while p80 has only one. would this affect the sq by any means ?
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1st June 2006, 23:31	#83
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	Burr Brown DACs are not the holy grail. there is lot more to producing good sound from a CD than adding a 24bit BB DAC. 1. Platter stability 2. Filters (there quite a few) 3. Power supply and shielding (just ask Ken Ishiwata)
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2nd June 2006, 11:49	#86
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	Go for P80RS without a doubt. No ways Alpine 9855 can touch P80RS on SQ. I will anyday go for the CD player with better DAC's and i rate Burr Brown as one of the best because other DAC's like Crystal, Wolfson are yet to be used in car audio.
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2nd June 2006, 13:23	#87
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Thanx again autophile!!
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12th June 2006, 11:44	#88
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	Alpine enclosed sub.... The PLV-7 was named an Innovations Award winner at the 2006 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES). http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/product...hp?model=PLV-7
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13th June 2006, 14:21	#89
slash_in Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Times	Just a few of the products introduced by Lanzar in India.. this is a Lanzar OPTI1232D sub Lanzar OPTICAP50 [COLOR=#003366]5.0 FARAD 24V Oval Neon Capacitor[/COLOR] Bandpass systems
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13th June 2006, 15:09	#90
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	DAMN... that Band Pass looks cute!! ... wonder if it sounds as good as it looks!!..
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