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Old 8th March 2011, 17:05   #1
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Glad to be back. I need a very quick advice on this. Budget : 20K

I am upgrading my ICE. This is what i got.

HU: Pioneer 5250SD
Front Speakers: Stock
Rear Speakers: MTX

I would like to upgrade to.

Front Speakers: Components,
Subwoofer,
An AMP to power these two, and wiring, damping.

My music preference is Powerfull BASS. Everything related to BASS.
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Anyone out there ??

I just want to know if these components are good ? And what may be the price ?

Morel, Focal, Infinity, Rainbow.

If they are too costly please advice me which one to go for taking in mind the quality of BASS i can get from.

And Please suggest me a good Sub-woofer and an AMP to power the Subs and the Components.

Does anyone know about the MTX subs ??

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Anyone out there ??

I just want to know if these components are good ? And what may be the price ?

Morel, Focal, Infinity, Rainbow.
All of them are good and price ranges from 6K to 1000K.

So you have 20K.

Amp: Auditor, Kenwood or Kicker 4 ch (6-7K)
Components: Infinity Reference, Morel Maximo or Helix: 7K
Sub: 12" JBL or Pioneer: 4K
Ported sub box (since you emphasized on BASS): 2K
Wiring, damping and install: 3K

MTX is a one of the best sub brands, but the good ones are a little outside your budget. Try to audition a few setups if possible.

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My music preference is Powerfull BASS. Everything related to BASS.
If its just the boom you like then you might want to audition basstubes besides subs in ported enclosure.

For the components see if you can audition Bull comps. As per the reviews here they offer good mid-bass and at a very affordable price.
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Thanks guys.. Let me check on that and come back to u.

Have a doubt.. What about the Infinity, Ground Zero, Illusion, Boston Subs ?

I have heard a lot of people talk about these.

And can i go for a DVC or a SVC sub in my budget if i am opting for a good BASS ? Because if the Subs are important, i can drop the components for later upgrade.

Just want to know what u guys think will be best for now.
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Buy this 2 ch RF amp. It's just 10K. It can put out 400W RMS in bridged mode.

http://classifieds.team-bhp.com/buy-...e-T400-2.html/

Rockford Fosgate® - T400-2

Connect it to a Kicker CVR 12" DVC sub or an Infinity Kappa 12" sub (SVC but has a 2 ohm switch). Sub will cost 10K. This combination, especially the Kicker, will put out humongous amounts of bass in a ported box. You will need to spend at least another 5K on wiring and damping the boot lid. Get components and a cheaper 4 ch amp in the next phase.

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Buy this 2 ch RF amp. It's just 10K. It can put out 400W RMS in bridged mode.

http://classifieds.team-bhp.com/buy-...e-T400-2.html/

Rockford Fosgate® - T400-2

Connect it to a Kicker CVR 12" DVC sub or an Infinity Kappa 12" sub (SVC but has a 2 ohm switch). Sub will cost 10K. This combination, especially the Kicker, will put out humongous amounts of bass in a ported box. You will need to spend at least another 5K on wiring and damping the boot lid. Get components and a cheaper 4 ch amp in the next phase.
Thanks .. Sounds good. Let me see what i can do with this advice.

Is there any other AMPs that i can buy it from a shop at this spec ?
I like the sub's. Will chose either one.
I just want to know if there are anyother AMP. And if so wht will be the make and model that i should look for ?
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Thanks guys.. Let me check on that and come back to u.

Have a doubt.. What about the Infinity, Ground Zero, Illusion, Boston Subs ?

I have heard a lot of people talk about these.
How about Polk, Morel, ID? People talk about these also.
And can i go for a DVC or a SVC sub in my budget if i am opting for a good BASS ? Because if the Subs are important, i can drop the components for later upgrade.
What other type of sub is there? Yours would HAVE to be either an SVC or DVC, isn't it?
Just want to know what u guys think will be best for now.
You sound a little like me when I posted my very initial queries on ICE.

Please don't mind my responses in bold above. They only indicate that we need to get certain fundamentals in place and unfortunately there ain't no shortcut.

When I started even I wanted bass and only bass until I was asked if the bass has to be boomy or tight or punchy.....SQ/SPL setup....if its mid-bass you need components (I recall the first time I heard there is something call a component speaker ) and the rest is history.

There is a lot of good stuff available, some expensive, some affordable. However, you need to step out and audition a few setups, may be spend some time at the installer's (if you can) and I can assure you that your queries would then be specific and very different from the original you posted.

Happy reading and auditioning!!

PS: If you are serious about car audio I could recommend that you start with reading some theory and self-help articles on car audio (t-bhp has plenty), search across other threads because most of the queries have already been answered (t-bhp search is so under-rated) and then ask what you exactly want.

EDIT: @gilead: Your recommendations would be way over his budget. Also, shouldn't an amp like JBL GTO 1004 make more sense here? Else he'd need another amp when going for components. I'm myself a noob at ICE but wouldn't such scenario call for a 4-ch amp instead?

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EDIT: @gilead: Your recommendations would be way over his budget. Also, shouldn't an amp like JBL GTO 1004 make more sense here? Else he'd need another amp when going for components. I'm myself a noob at ICE but wouldn't such scenario call for a 4-ch amp instead?
Well, I assumed the components were going into the next phase. Since he's been insisting on bass, I suggested the RF 2 ch and the Kicker/Infinity combination.

Even a 6-7K 4 ch in bridged mode or a 12K JBL 1004 in bridged mode would put out decent bass but I have no idea how much bass the OP needs. Hence the 400W RMS RF and Kicker DVC/Infinity Kappa suggestion. It would be lethal in a hatch IMO.

I don't think the 1004 is 2 ohm stable in bridged so the advantage of a DVC sub cannot be fully utilized. On the other hand, the RF is 2 ohm stable. And the budget was exceeded by only 5K. lol

No scenario is right or wrong. Ultimately one should first know what one wants as you pointed out and then proceed accordingly.

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Since he's been insisting on bass, I suggested the RF 2 ch and the Kicker/Infinity combination.
Don't you know how we all insist on bass initially. I still recall those boom-boom-boom cars going past me and how I wished one day my ICE setup would be the boomiest!!

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EDIT: You are right!!

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And the budget was exceeded by only 5K. lol
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Well, I assumed the components were going into the next phase.

I thought it was only a limited few who made ICE noobs shell out more money than they originally planned, I guess I was wrong.

@computer: No no no, the real confusion hasn't even started building up yet. Spend a few more days around and then tell us how confused you are. lol

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Thanks .. Sounds good. Let me see what i can do with this advice.

Is there any other AMPs that i can buy it from a shop at this spec ?
I like the sub's. Will chose either one.
I just want to know if there are anyother AMP. And if so wht will be the make and model that i should look for ?
You decide what you want to do first. Either decide a 4 ch amp that puts out adequate power for both components and sub, or buy a monoblock or a 2 ch amp for now that puts out lots of power but only for the sub. For 10K, you will not find an amp putting out 400W RMS in shops here. You could look at the JBL 3501 mono which outs out 350W RMS at 2 ohms. Costs around 10K I think. You can connect that to either one of the subs. The SQ will be nowhere in the league of the RF but if you don't care about that and want only a lot of boom boom, the JBL mono will be adequate.

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Don't you know how we all insist on bass initially. I still recall those boom-boom-boom cars going past me and how I wished one day my ICE setup would be the boomiest!!
It is possible to generate a lot of head turning sub bass and have stupendous SQ at the same time. But for that you will have to spend a bomb like Mi10 or other ICE maniacs.

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All of them are good and price ranges from 6K to 1000K.

So you have 20K.

Amp: Auditor, Kenwood or Kicker 4 ch (6-7K)
Components: Infinity Reference, Morel Maximo or Helix: 7K
Sub: 12" JBL or Pioneer: 4K
Ported sub box (since you emphasized on BASS): 2K
Wiring, damping and install: 3K

MTX is a one of the best sub brands, but the good ones are a little outside your budget. Try to audition a few setups if possible.
I'll second this config as well. You should go for Focal components if you are looking for some serious mid-bass. Try getting the GTO Subwoofer from JBL and put in a portel box and you'll have enough BOOM to shake the neighborhood. If you want a loud and clean setup as well, then am afraid you'll have to spend more. And do spend 2-3k on damping, makes a lot of difference. Cheers!
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Hi guys..
Need a quick advice.

I have 27k. After a lot of confusion between a xbox and a ICE upgrade i parted ways with Xbox.

So as i have a confusion.
Either to go for a Mono Amp and a kicker sub or 4ch Amp and kicker sub.

Cos i will be shifting these products to my ikon in 6 months and if i have a 4ch Amp i could power the Rainbow components that i will be getting later.

If i am going for a 4Ch Amp which one shall i go for the budget of 27k including the subs ?

I want a good 4Ch amps which can power the subs and the components.

Please help soon guys.
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@computer: Is your budget of 27k just for the amp(s) and sub(s)?
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@computer: Is your budget of 27k just for the amp(s) and sub(s)?
Yes, including wiring and damping.
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