Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > Commercial Vehicles


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 21st April 2012, 11:32   #16
BHPian
 
Champion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Dubai / Madraspattinam
Posts: 155
Thanked: 40 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

Quote:
I think we underestimate the Chinese products too quickly.

FOTON is a manufacturer producing close to 600 thousand vehicles a year (more than the complete CV production in India)! I really don't think they could have achieved these numbers with sub-standard quality. For sure there would have been lemons but I'm pretty sure the numbers would be negligible.

For many products, the Chinese quality is way above the Indian standards!

My personal opinion is that if Foton do decide to make a strong stand in India, then things would become really interesting. TML, AL & VECV have not seen a high volume competitor as yet in the CV segment. Uptill now, the new players like Volvo, MAN, Scania etc all play in niche segments.
Owning and operating a FOTON vehicle, I wouldn't say the above (no offence mate!). No FOTON vehicle (would not include the other Chinese manufacturers) is any close to the quality of Indian manufacturers. But of course, if we mean "Indian manufacturers" as in like HM, Sonalika or the kind, true perhaps. But then it would only be at par with these. I remember when my driver sat on the van for the first time, he said "Bhaiyya, yeh tho hamare ambassador jaisa hai!" (Brother, this is just like our ambassador). This despite the fact that, on paper, it boasted of so many functions which was astounding to my driver himself, who was driving a Nissan Urvan until then.

However, FOTON could be the volume player here. Like somebody earlier pointed out, there isn't that kind of manufacturer to challenge the volumes manufacturers in our country. Only niche players. So if you say FOTON is a formidable force to reckon with in the Indian scenario, I agree. But if you say, its quality is way above Indian manufacturers', NO WAY! We shouldn't generalise on Chinese products as such. We are being specific about a particular company here. As for the quality of the Chinese products, I know that for what you pay, that you get. Top brands from around the world have their manufacturing facility in China, and there's no dearth of quality in any of their manufactured products. A far more developed country it is (thanks to the communist regime), and has got the right kind of manufacturing zones for specific products. All good and agreed. But not FOTON. Simple.

Cherio
Champion
Champion is offline   (4) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 21st April 2012, 14:34   #17
Senior - BHPian
 
Ashley2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: NH7
Posts: 2,092
Thanked: 1,439 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

Quote:
Originally Posted by torquecurve View Post
FOTON though a BIG brand, will probably not be very successful in India, unless they prove that their trucks last long. ...

Unless FOTON is able to break the "Chinese hai yaar, chala to chala nahi to dukaan ke bahar warranty khatam (It is chinese buddy, warranty over as soon as you step out of the shop) " thought, I dont see it really taking off in the Indian Market. JMT.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajman28 View Post
I think we underestimate the Chinese products too quickly.

FOTON is a manufacturer producing close to 600 thousand vehicles a year (more than the complete CV production in India)! ......
For many products, the Chinese quality is way above the Indian standards!

My personal opinion is that if Foton do decide to make a strong stand in India, then things would become really interesting. TML, AL & VECV have not seen a high volume competitor as yet in the CV segment. Uptill now, the new players like Volvo, MAN, Scania etc all play in niche segments.
Foton, will have aggregates sourced from Cummins and Eaton/ZF IMO.Cabs, axles may be manufactured by them. Their products will have all the fancy bells and whistles, with price at the rock bottom level.
But as a company, Indians never have a good view about Chinese products. This is obvious in many industries and so many Chinese companies are using different brand name(as if they are from west) so they dont have a poor initial impression. Lets see if the formula is same here or some thing changes.
Ashley2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd April 2012, 01:06   #18
BHPian
 
torquecurve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pune
Posts: 598
Thanked: 629 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

Saw a huge FOTON logo on a shop (showroom) near my house. It is just beside the Aga Khan Palace, in the same area as the old DASS showroom. Will try to get some pics tomorrow.
torquecurve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd April 2012, 16:48   #19
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 260
Thanked: 91 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashley2 View Post
But as a company, Indians never have a good view about Chinese products. This is obvious in many industries and so many Chinese companies are using different brand name(as if they are from west) so they dont have a poor initial impression. Lets see if the formula is same here or some thing changes.
So much so, Chinese started using "Made in PRC" as "Made in China" gives a poor impression!
However, true to our perception, the Chinese invasion in two wheelers (200cc bikes promised at less than 30K!) died a silent death. It may happen here too (this attempt is much serious though, with significant greenfield investments).
babu.sundaram is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 10th May 2012, 16:19   #20
BHPian
 
ajman28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chennai
Posts: 277
Thanked: 22 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

I heard FOTON is planning to launch their trucks in 2014. I think they have already finalised their plant location in Pune.

Primarily they should be focussing on the LCV/ICV segments.
ajman28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th January 2013, 11:18   #21
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: --
Posts: 10,036
Thanked: 15,522 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

Volvo to become world’s largest heavy-duty truck manufacturer following strategic alliance with Chinese company Dongfeng Motor Group.
May gain access to more emerging markets.

Quote:
Chinese state-owned auto maker Dongfeng Motor Group Co. is set to announce as early as this weekend a strategic alliance with Swedish truck maker Volvo AB.
Dongfeng is a major exporter of heavy trucks to emerging markets, including Africa and South America, and the alliance would help the company further expand its global reach, the official added.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...0AS3QA20130123

Cheers!
volkman10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st March 2013, 15:03   #22
Newbie
 
bora.nayan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pune
Posts: 9
Thanked: 4 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

Saw these two Foton pickups being tested in Pune today. Looks like Tunland at the outset.

Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?-img_1211.jpg

Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?-img_1208.jpg

Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?-img_1209.jpg

Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?-img_1207.jpg
bora.nayan is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 2nd March 2013, 15:53   #23
Senior - BHPian
 
amtak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mumbai - The city of Sea Link!!!
Posts: 2,782
Thanked: 342 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

Holy cow! Thats a sweet looking pik-up truck. If they launch it at a good price and provide decent After sales, M&M need to be worried lot.
amtak is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 14th March 2013, 17:32   #24
BHPian
 
musclecar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Pune
Posts: 52
Thanked: 61 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

Looks like all the Automobile players are getting their Pick-up trucks in India. Well one thing is for sure we would see a lot of good looking trucks on the road.
musclecar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th February 2014, 23:44   #25
BHPian
 
tushky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Pune/ Thermopolis
Posts: 937
Thanked: 588 Times
Default

saw 2 toonland trucks parked in the parking of foton office. i must admit that these trucks have very good road stance. powered by 2ltr Cummins engine.
Attached Images
   
tushky is offline   (3) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2014, 16:17   #26
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 69
Thanked: 72 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

Badge was camouflaged for this Foton Ollins seen near the Chinchwad RTO Pune moving towards Nashik Highway. Foton might introduce this in India for 2-8tonne range..
Attached Images
 

Last edited by Stratos : 21st July 2014 at 16:20.
Leymama is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 23rd July 2014, 18:59   #27
BHPian
 
turbo1787's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NOIDA
Posts: 103
Thanked: 22 Times
Default Re: Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?

It seems Foton is about to launch a Luxury Bus in association with Amar Coaches (a Punjab based coach builder) similar to the Mercedes-Sutlej tie up. Here are a few pics from the website of Amar Coaches:
Attached Thumbnails
Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?-galaxyfoton.jpg  

Foton (Chinese) Trucks in India?-galaxyfoton.jpg  

turbo1787 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mumbai Fire Brigade Trucks - Volvo FM400 & MAN trucks Rosso Corsa Commercial Vehicles 15 5th February 2017 13:13
SCOOP Pics! Chinese Foton Tunland (Pick-Up) spotted testing near Pune Redline6800 The Indian Car Scene 28 7th December 2016 09:35
Daimler India Commercial Vehicles starts exporting India-built FUSO trucks to Cambodia Aditya Commercial Vehicles 0 22nd June 2015 17:31
Top Indian executives leave Foton Motor India Aditya The Indian Car Scene 4 9th February 2015 16:55
Any news on Foton trucks & buses coming to India? aparbansal Commercial Vehicles 3 30th December 2010 11:54


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 08:53.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks