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Old 1st July 2012, 10:59   #46
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Please can some one tell me the recommended Engine Oil for 160HP cheetah H series engine running on a moffusil bus...
The OE recomended oil is GULF Superfleet LE 15W40.

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...Iv just made a few mods.
Changed tyres to 295/85/R22.5 Tubeless Ceat Pro10 and discs to Aluminium
Junked the electronic fuel pump and reverted to the old mechanical pump ( believe me - it saves me 10 lit/day for 380km run).
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Aluminium discs should reduce the heat trasnfered from brake drum to tyres. Having 295 section tyres in Cheetah should give you upto 1.5 lks kms tyre life alround. If you try only in rear that should give some 10% extra.

where is your bus operating? we will be gald to see your Cheetah.


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Since you said you junked the electronic FIP and used a mechanical (inline) FIP, it seems like you've actually converted the 183bhp engine to 160bhp. The Viking with EDC puts out 183 while the one with Inline FIP gives 160...
The current products have 160 il and 183 EDC. The earlier ones were 160 EDC, which is same as our Raj's Viking.
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The OE recomended oil is GULF Superfleet LE 15W40.

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I have checked on the gulf website - Superfleet seems to recommended for BS1 and earlier vehicles. Hence the doubt!!!

Gulf Super fleet 15W-40 - Engine Oil by Gulf Oil India
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Old 1st July 2012, 15:46   #49
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Where is your bus operating? we will be gald to see your Cheetah.

I operate from Coimbatore to Pollachi. Where are you placed? Ashley




The current products have 160 il and 183 EDC. The earlier ones were 160 EDC, which is same as our Raj's Viking.[/quote]

Mine is a 2010 model so should that be the 160EDC???? I'll check the manual
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[quote=Autokrat;2825542]Depends how old is this vehicle.
Its a 2010 model. shall get back with exact specs
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I operate from Coimbatore to Pollachi. Where are you placed? Ashley
I am from the same place - Pollachi.
Surprised that I am not aware of any Chetah running in that area.
Cant wait any more, waiting for the pics.

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Mine is a 2010 model so should that be the 160EDC???? I'll check the manual
From 2010 Oct BS III came to effect. But from that point AL is offering newly migrated products as listed in website.

Apart from this tell us more stories on conversion.
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[quote=Ashley2;2825970]I am from the same place - Pollachi.
Surprised that I am not aware of any Chetah running in that area.
Cant wait any more, waiting for the pics.

Hmmmm. Is teh Cheetah that rare??? Or maybe Im wrong. Is mine a Viking then I'll Check
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Aluminium discs should reduce the heat trasnfered from brake drum to tyres. Having 295 section tyres in Cheetah should give you upto 1.5 lks kms tyre life alround. If you try only in rear that should give some 10% extra.
What is the average life of the tyres on a bus like the multi axle volvos?how many times can these be retreaded before they are discarded? Also how much does one tyre for a volvo size cost?

Sorry for asking so many questions . Just curious to know how much role do the tires of a bus play in the overall maintenance cost of the bus.

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I have checked on the gulf website - Superfleet seems to recommended for BS1 and earlier vehicles. Hence the doubt!!!
My mistake, the correct spec would be GULF Superfleet LE Max with 36000km drain interval provided you are using the extended life oil filters (longer ones). Being a 2010 model, the engine should be having one.

The conversion was done to a mechanical rotary or inline fuel pump ?
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Hmmmm. Is teh Cheetah that rare??? Or maybe Im wrong. Is mine a Viking then I'll Check
It should be BS II Viking 210 or 222 (most probably 222) as i have hardly seen Cheetah in our area.

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Where is your bus operating? we will be gald to see your Cheetah.

I operate from Coimbatore to Pollachi.
Nice to see a bus owner from Coimbatore-Pollachi route. It is one of the dense routes present in Tamilnadu. I too from Pollachi and closely follow the buses in Coimbatore-Pollachi-Palani route.

We have a bus named "Madhu" in this route. Is that yours?

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It should be BS II Viking 210 or 222 (most probably 222) as i have hardly seen Cheetah in our area.
+1. I too hearing a cheetah first time in our area.

@Madhu,
Please check and let us know whether yours is a cheetah or Viking.

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Hmmmm. Is teh Cheetah that rare??? Or maybe Im wrong. Is mine a Viking then I'll Check
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It should be BS II Viking 210 or 222 (most probably 222) as i have hardly seen Cheetah in our area.
Just got it confirmed, it's a Viking 222WB model.
If i'm not wrong, it's ex "VBT" route which has one trip to Mettupalayam during morning hours.
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My mistake, the correct spec would be GULF Superfleet LE Max with 36000km drain interval provided you are using the extended life oil filters (longer ones). Being a 2010 model, the engine should be having one.
The conversion was done to a mechanical rotary or inline fuel pump ?
Extended drain oil is not available in bus during 2010. That was a USP specially developed for U-Trucks. And now AL is deploying across all models and just now AL has started offering in buses and now it goes upto 80K for engine oil change, aganist regular 40K. THis is the highest engine oil change period in the industry.

For the long drain interval, oil recommended is Gulf Super Fleet LE Dura Max 15W-40 aganist the normal recommended oil of Gulf Super Fleet LE 15W-40. Oil filters are also different.
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That's a unimaginable speed considering the road condition.
Even till 2004/05, in trichy bus stand conductors will be telling "& hrs Non Stop, Chennai.. Chennai..".
I was a regular in the Chennai - Tuticorin sector in the mid '80s. Two omnibus (RVN Travels and Rathi Meena) services in this route always did the distance in twelve hours - Leave Chennai 5.30 PM, arrive Tuticorin 5.30 AM. TTC took an hour more. Roads were nowhere near what they are now. All of them were AL buses.
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Dear BHP ians,
I done a little bit of research on Engine oils with help from,
Oil Specifications Explained - What does 10w40 mean?
Motor oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I also did comparative study of
Castrol CRB Turbo - http://www.castrol.com/castrol/secti...tentId=7074461
Gulf Super Diesel Plus -http://www.gulfoilindia.com/cvo_super_diesel_plus.html
Agip Sigma Truck Supreme...with the following specs
ACEA
E7/E5 and API CI-4/CH-4
Servo Pride ,XL,Premium etc
Automotive Lubricating Oils : Indian Oil


AGIP was the only one with a CI4 Specification with a max viscosity index of 150

Hope this is useful to all Bus Owners

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Nice to see a bus owner from Coimbatore-Pollachi route.
Dear Dhandapani,
Yes its my bus. Happy to know so many familiar frens are here. Keep in touch. Its a viking Im sorry Ashley2 and dhandapanik. I seem to have disappointed u guys.

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My mistake, the correct spec would be GULF Superfleet LE Max with 36000km drain interval
Thanks mate but Gulf Le Max too has a spec of CH4 only . Do go through my post on comparison on engine oils. expecting ur commentz

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