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Old 8th August 2013, 17:44   #16
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i was under the assumption that, rear engine automatically helps the constructor to build a low floor bus. Please correct me if I am wrong.

This one looks like a normal TATA & AL bus.
The chassis has to be one that can accommodate a low-floor body. That said, since a rear-engined bus will not have a propeller shaft running from the front till the rear axle, it's relatively easy to make a RE low-floor bus. Remember, the JanBus from Ashok Leyland is a FE-LF bus, and it's got several patents, but none of the other manufacturers have come up with one all these days. However, all of them have RE-LF buses.

The bus in the picture would be pitted against the AL and TM 10.8m & 12m offerings.
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i was under the assumption that, rear engine automatically helps the constructor to build a low floor bus. Please correct me if I am wrong. This one looks like a normal TATA & AL bus.
Floor height would depend on whether the construction is body-on-ladder-frame type as in conventional buses or is integral as in contemporary low floor buses. The conventional ladder frame chassis prevents floor height from being lowered beyond the height of the chassis and was done away with in buses in advanced countries precisely for this reason. Location of the engine (front versus rear) does not have a major role to play as far as I know. Integral construction also offers the advantage of better dynamics resulting from uniform weight and stress distribution.

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Normally Rear Engine buses are constructed using integral frames, which means that they do not need the traditional ladder frame under the floor.

This can help to lower the floor, but then there are other components that have to be accommodated as well like the front axle and the front wheel. Which is why you see the big boxes in the front of the Volvo commuter buses. Also the rear floor is usually raised to accommodate the engine and the drive axle.

Inter-city buses on the other hand prefer a high floor design as this allows for a clean floor and more seating capacity. Also the space under the floor is used for luggage.
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Having parted ways with Navistar, why would Mahindra want to retain the MNAL logo ?
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Got these 2 pics from Nilesh Suravase's post in WORLD OF VOLVO & MERC BUSES Facebook Group.



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Why do I get the feeling that there is something odd about this bus???!!!!

1. The seats seem narrower than usual, compared to Volvo, Scania, Isuzu, Divo etc.

2. The last row is considerably higher than the rest.

3. The bus seems to be quite a good bit off the ground, which I would think will eat into luggage capacity.

4. Build quality at this point seems not good at all. May be final production variants will be better.

BTW, the headlamp cluster design seems almost a straight lift from that of the Tata Prima.
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Seems like a me-too product like the Divo.
Not really feature rich but playing the value for money card.
The wipers seem small and will need to work continuously to stop the trickling water
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Mahindra Truck & Bus business to merge into M&M Ltd.
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Mahindra & Mahindra has renamed its truck and bus division, Mahindra Navistar Automotive Ltd. as Mahindra Trucks and Buses Ltd. (MTBL), which is a wholly owned subsidiary and part of the US $16.2 billion Mahindra Group. Subject to regulatory approvals, the company also intends to demerge its trucks and buses operations from MTBL into Mahindra & Mahindra to derive greater synergies. It also announced plans to invest Rs 200 crores to further strengthen its existing product line up and start exploratory work for new product lines that could lead to further capital infusion of over Rs. 300 crores in due course.
http://www.cardekho.com/india-car-ne...-ltd-11021.htm
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Rear engine luxury bus market is very small and that too single axle rear engine market is still smaller. Though this project was initiated 3 years ago immediately after the formation of company the market hasn't changed much- Only Volvo, AL and Isuzu have managed to sell in double digits.
With Alma lending hands for body with reference from' Leo' it doesn't look inspiring too.
M&M should have targeted front engine bus segment with right price point. I do understand the reason for skipping this would be lack of aggregates but still it can't be missed because they account for 98% of market.
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Beige interiors in a bus? It would get dirty at the end of the first trip! imagine what would be the state at the end of the year..
The Floor lights looks cool!

And why there are 2 Ovrm's?! The one on door is classy

Overall doesnt look that merc and volvo would be much worried!
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Mahindra Trucks and Buses Limited (MTBL) have aggressive plans for the future, after parting ways from Navistar.
MTBL is trying real hard to penetrate into the tough market which is led by Tata and others.

Scoop: Mahindra Navistar Rear Engined Bus Spotted-mahindrarearenginebus2.jpg

The bus would, however, be a luxurious one indeed. It would have approximately 40 seats, and expectedly the option for a semi-recline as well. Air-conditioning will ensure a proper environment, and a probable air-suspension will prevent jittery rides.

http://motorbash.com/scoop-upcoming-...ned-bus-spied/

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Ugh! That color. For God's sake Mahindra, it's a fricking bus, not a Xylo.
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