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Old 9th February 2014, 20:34   #1
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Lohia Auto Industries unveiled the Humrahi Passenger and Humrahi Cargo electric three-wheelers, which it claims are the first of their kind, developed in India. A driving licence is not required to drive these.

Top speed: 20 kph
Range: 60-70 km
Seatin + Load capacity: Passenger - 4+1 + 280 kg, Cargo - 350 kg
Battery type: Lead Acid Battery
Battery capacity: 80 Ah
Motor type: BLDC geared motor
Charger: 48 V 10 A, three stage SMPS Charger
Motor input voltage: 48 V
Brake: 130 mm drums
Speedometer: Analog
Start: Electric

Passenger
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Cargo
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Four electric bikes were also displayed at the Lohia stall. Registration and driving licence are not required to ride these.

Fame
Top speed: 25 kph
Range: 70 km
Motor: BLDC, 250 W
Motor input voltage: 48 V
Battery capacity: 20 Ah
Charging time: 6-8 hours
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Oma Star
Top speed: 25 kph
Range: 60 km
Motor: BLDC, 250 W
Motor input voltage: 48 V
Battery capacity: 20 Ah
Charging time: 6-8 hours
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Oma Star DX
Top speed: 25 kph
Range: 80 km
Motor: BLDC, 250 W
Motor input voltage: 48 V
Battery capacity: 30 Ah
Charging time: 6-8 hours
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Genius
Top speed: 25 kph
Range: 60-70 km
Motor: BLDC, 250 W
Motor input voltage: 48 V
Battery capacity: 20 Ah
Charging time: 6-8 hours
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Lohia Humsafar and Humsafar Ldi
Engine: 436 cc, Single-cylinder, four stroke, direct injection diesel
Cooling: Forced air cooled + oil
Power and torque: 7.5 hp, 18 Nm
Transmission: 4-speed
Top speed: 50 kph

Humsafar
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Humsafar Ldi
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The build quality on the 3-wheelers seems to be worse than the Jugaad-3-wheelers. Even if you are just a startup, when u come to a Car Show you are supposed to put out your best appearance. Sorry, Lohia you have wasted a golden opportunity to make any impact at the AutoExpo.

@Aditya: Thanks for your efforts, for covering even the newest of manufacturers.
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The build quality on the 3-wheelers seems to be worse than the Jugaad-3-wheelers. Even if you are just a startup, when u come to a Car Show you are supposed to put out your best appearance. Sorry, Lohia you have wasted a golden opportunity to make any impact at the AutoExpo.

@Aditya: Thanks for your efforts, for covering even the newest of manufacturers.
Mods, thanks for a nice coverage.

@Delta, may be, i do not fully agree with you.

These are new chaps in the automotive industry. They might not have enough funds at their disposal, like the big companies have. Banks might also have rejected their loan requests (May be. Who would want to give to a company, which doesnt have any real products?). So, definitely we would see that their products do not have enough build quality as per the regular standards.

How i see is, Auto expo is the correct destination to showcase their products. This can help them in attracting new investors, it helps to better understand market expectations, and public's acceptable levels. The number of products that they showcased, that too being a startup. i would say, its a Good show. May be, by now, they might have learned something. And the learning goes into their products down the line.

Maybe, if they could attact some investors after auto expo, or if they can get some loans easily, i would be happy.

Being a new brand, i would say, Good job Lohia.

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Maybe, if they could attact some investors after auto expo, or if they can get some loans easily, i would be happy.
Being a new brand, i would say, Good job Lohia.
@Gemi_kk: While I fully accept and appreciate your point of view, What made me make those comments was this particular image.

Please take a look at the way the Phase selector like switch is installed and the cuts done on the flooring sheet and also the partial welding seams on the cargo bay. Even as an investor, you do expect certain amount of commitment from a start-up company towards its product quality. This is what I was trying to say by my previous posts.

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@Aditya

Nice cover up.

Lohia a new entrants and like KK correctly mentioned, the availability of loans and even a basic OD for SME is pretty difficult.

More so when you are an automobile manufacturer in extremely trying environments.

The lack of funds for normal business or shall we say the working capital would eventually lead to a minimal or no R&D funds and there fore the product finished product may not be up to Industrial standards.

However, as informed and responsible team bhpians, we certainly need to laud and appreciate the efforts Lohia has taken on such a large platform and did not shy about displaying their products.

Feasibility and long time reliability may come in at a later point.

However, right now I would say even the efforts certainly is appreciable and deserves credit.
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The Diesel auto passenger carrier and the load carrier look exactly like the Piaggio Ape. Could it be some sort of production rights/scheme they got from Piaggio? Otherwise they can't make a carbon copy of a production model and sell it here, can they?

They could've planned the Humrahi much better. Even for a startup this is not acceptable, in my personal opinion. Don't know what is their target buyer group. In our nation getting a DL is not a big deal so the fact that these 3 wheelers not requiring DL also didn't appeal to me much.
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The Diesel auto passenger carrier and the load carrier look exactly like the Piaggio Ape. Could it be some sort of production rights/scheme they got from Piaggio? Otherwise they can't make a carbon copy of a production model and sell it here, can they?
Exactly that is what I felt as soon as I saw the passenger and especially the cargo rikshaws. They are a copy of the Piaggio range of vehicles to the dot and event to the extent that the rear wheels allign inwards (never understood that ). How can they do this can anyone explain

Secondly are the Lohias of the LML fame (or other wise). Also about the electric scooters seems to be yet again from the Chinese lot rebadged here like the cheaper android mobiles. Not sure about their durability.
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Very interesting to see official phat-phats!!

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They are a copy of the Piaggio range of vehicles to the dot and event to the extent that the rear wheels allign inwards

Secondly are the Lohias of the LML fame (or other wise).
I too think they are the same - No wonder the vehicles look like their erstwhile partners - Piaggio!!
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Please take a look at the way the Phase selector like switch is installed and the cuts done on the flooring sheet and also the partial welding seams on the cargo bay. Even as an investor, you do expect certain amount of commitment from a start-up company towards its product quality.
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Agreed. Even i saw this. But what we must appreciate is the number of products that Lohia has on Display. If you clearly observe, Even Mahindra 2 wheelers didnt showcase these many, despite having access to Kinetic motors & their own R&D unit. It is just an example. What Lohia has shown is their commitment (Could be said) towards market.

Comming to such build mistakes, even major automobile companies does it. At one place or other, you will be able to find them. What all i can say is because of number of factors (Time, labor, funds, other issues with manufacturing unit, unavailability of precission tools) they weren't able to fix it. i believe that they would have spotted it in manufacturing process. But, might have neglected it because of some factor.

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The Diesel auto passenger carrier and the load carrier look exactly like the Piaggio Ape. Could it be some sort of production rights/scheme they got from Piaggio? Otherwise they can't make a carbon copy of a production model and sell it here, can they?
Even i dont think, they can make an exact replica of an existing model. But, i think there are other manufacturers in india who make similar products. I have spotted one from either TVS/mahindra. So, they must have taken some sort of rights to use the design.

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Secondly are the Lohias of the LML fame (or other wise). Also about the electric scooters seems to be yet again from the Chinese lot rebadged here like the cheaper android mobiles. Not sure about their durability.
No one knows their level of durability. Only time will tell. LML's were very durable, But still they ran out. Some other manufacturers aren't that durable, but they are doing good business. I wouldnt prefer to name the brand but, the third biggest indian 2 wheeler company could be the best example for this.

I believe that, in today's world, having one patient/tech should be sufficient for a manufacturer. A perfect recipie of effecient and effective battery usage could save them. May be they will be acquired by a bigger player down the line.
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Thank you for the coverage Aditya.

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A driving licence is not required to drive these.
Why? Aren't guys driving these required to follow traffic rules?
Electric Vehicles, which have power less than 250W and speed less than 25 kmph are not categorized as motor vehicles. Hence the transport rules are not applicable for such exempt category vehicles.

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Hero Electric is already retailing some models that do not require a driving license nor a registration to ride them.

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Electric Vehicles, which have power less than 250W and speed less than 25 kmph are not categorized as motor vehicles. Hence the transport rules are not applicable for such exempt category vehicles.

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Hero Electric is already retailing some models that do not require a driving license nor a registration to ride them.
I know sir - but I was trying a tongue-in-cheek comment generally on the lawlessness of the phat-phatis and other such jugaads on the roads of the country. At the same time am also surprised by the fact that even commercial vehicles carrying passengers don't require a license. On the other hand, the success of manufacturers like Lohia can push the authorities towards more regulation
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The Humrahi Passenger could be used as a runabout within a resort or a tech park. But I couldn't understand what the cargo version would be used for - An electric pick up truck? One, it would add another line of slow moving vehicles that clog the traffic like the auto guys do in bangalore. And two, how much this vehicle can travel on a single charge is important, especially when it is promoted as a 'cargo' version.
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