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Old 14th February 2014, 15:24   #1
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One thing I really enjoy at the Auto Expo is visiting Commercial Vehicle stalls.
  • The stalls are relatively empty and relaxed
  • The representatives with the vehicles are engineers, and are keen to show their work
  • I learn a lot of new things, as I don't know much about HCVs. (I'll share them here)
  • I get to climb into the vehicles

The Eicher Pro series was launched just a few months back. Link.

The Pro series spans:
  • Pro 1000: 5-14 ton / 95 - 115 BHP / 245 - 400 Nm
  • Pro 3000: 9-14 ton / 120 - 150 BHP / 400 - 450 Nm
  • Pro 6000: 16-40 ton / 210 - 220 BHP / 825 - 850 Nm
  • Pro 8000: 25-49 ton / 250 - 280 BHP / 950 - 1950 Nm
  • Skyline Pro - Buses / 107 BHP / 720 Nm

Decoding the naming:
If a truck is badged as "6025T", it means it's an 6000 series with a 25 Ton capacity.


Here's a 6025T. See, you guys know what that means now:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3854.jpg

Single hydraulic arm for the tipper function:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3855.jpg

A closer look at the chassis. The 'body' (ie. Tipper part) is then bolted on:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3856.jpg

Everything on these trucks is heavy duty. Look at how thick the bar supporting the mud-guard is:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3857.jpg

If you like doors that close with a thud, this rear tailgate is solid steel. I was shocked at exactly how thick & heavy it was:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3859.jpg

Inside the tipper:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3860.jpg

Being a tipper (and probably gonna be used off-road) it doesn't come with rear under-run protection:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3861.jpg

Massive leaf spings stacked high:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3862.jpg

Water separator for the diesel:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3863.jpg

A damping latch with rubber bushings (the 3 black disks) for when the tipper comes down to its resting position:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3864.jpg

Wheel chocks tucked away. Better than using rocks:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3865.jpg

The actual tipping control (in the cabin):
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3866.jpg

Low mounted headlights, as per the law. Fog lights too:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3867.jpg

The 8000 series gets a different design for the headlamps:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3868.jpg

The 6000 & 8000 share the 6-cylinder engine (though in different states of tune):
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3869.jpg

Mud-flaps too rise up with the tipper:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3870.jpg

Since the 8000s have a longer chassis, this folding structure helps the tipper raise straight up:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3871.jpg

These arms can be flipped into this position for added safety, if the tipper is to be kept in the raised position for a long time:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3872.jpg

Another view of the longer 8000 series chassis:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3873.jpg

Massive airbox. Wonder how much a K&N this size would cost :
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3875.jpg

The tipper body and the chassis are just placed on top of each other and bolted together. No welding. The spring-loaded bolts negate any dimensional differences:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3876.jpg

Smaller leaf-springs for the wheels ahead of the rear axles:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3877.jpg

The drivers have all the angles covered with this set of mirrors:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3878.jpg

Bottom step is foldable, to avoid colliding with anything:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3879.jpg

A pulley system to lower the spare tyre. Wheel needs to be unbolted first. Not sure I trust that string!:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3881.jpg

Just to give you a sense of scale:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3883.jpg

The 8049 tractor:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3884.jpg

Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3885.jpg

The two "antennae" looking things are the radius arms:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3887.jpg

To be connected to the trailer. One line is the electricals (brake lights, etc) and the other is the pneumatic line for the brakes:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-img_3888.jpg

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4 steps up to get in. Beat that, SUVs:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-01-img_3899.jpg

2 real front-row passenger seats. Beat that Datsun Go… okay, I'll stop:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-02-img_3895.jpg

There's room at the back so one driver can sleep through another ones shift. These trucks are designed to be on the road 20+ hours a day:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-03-img_3896.jpg

Basic instrument cluster. Note the redline :
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-04-img_3892.jpg

This isn't actually a true 9-speed gearbox. 1-4 are low ratios (with their black neutral) and 5-8 are the high ratios, with their own neutral position. "C" is crawler gear:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-05-img_3893.jpg

Levers for tipper activation and handbrake:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-06-img_3894.jpg

How many wipers can you see? :
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-07-img_3889.jpg

Diff-locks and other things:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-08-img_3890.jpg

Apparently all these buttons do different things. Hmmm:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-09-img_3891.jpg

Plus points for the Aux-in:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-10-img_3898.jpg

Driver's view of the multi-mirror set-up:
Eicher @ Auto Expo 2014-11-img_3897.jpg

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The rest, in pictures:

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One thing I really enjoy at the Auto Expo is visiting Commercial Vehicle stalls.[list][*]The stalls are relatively empty and relaxed[*]The representatives with the vehicles are engineers, and are keen to show their work
Couldn't agree more.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/auto-e...ml#post3365791
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Was impressed by the people at the Eicher stall. Reasonably knowledgeable, and enthusiastic. (Though would like confirmation, or otherwise, of the cam drive mechanism from block to head)
Would you have pictures of the left side of the engines?

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Would you have pictures of the left side of the engines?
Only this one:

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Rehaan, any idea if these Eicher trucks are born out of in-house R&D or are they old Volvo trucks rebranded as Eichers?
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Excellent report, loved it! Thanks for sharing. The machines look very well made.

Nice to see the single long hydraulic arm mounted on the leading edge. I have seen the mid mounted ones making a very bad sound while opening and closing.
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Only this one:
Thanks. Unfortunately wrong angle.

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Thanks Rehaan for the wonderful pictures!

Nice to see those big trucks launched in India. Especially those cabins mounted on additional suspension would sure be comfortable. Do they sway much when one climbs on to the seat?

Found this video which highlights the comfy cabin:
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Rehaan, any idea if these Eicher trucks are born out of in-house R&D or are they old Volvo trucks rebranded as Eichers?

Hi,

As per my understanding (based on our interaction with the company) these are the trucks coming out of VECV (their joint venture with Volvo). So while higher tonnage vehicles are new trucks, lower tonnage trucks (ICVs) are effectively a replacement for current line of Eicher trucks. Hope this is helpful.
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A closer look at the chassis. The 'body' (ie. Tipper part) is then bolted on:
Attachment 1207671

The tipper body and the chassis are just placed on top of each other and bolted together. No welding. The spring-loaded bolts negate any dimensional differences:
Attachment 1207694
Spring loaded bolts are used to increase the bolt pretension which avoids the bolt loosening and further mounting bracket failure in applications subjected to high vibrations.

It is not to negate any dimensional differences. Tight tolerances are maintained during chassis manufacturing and are achievable too.

If you check the other photo where only one mounting bolt is spring loaded which implies that mounting location is critical.

Also it not advisable to use welding on chassis long members. Mostly you find either bolted or riveted joints to fasten any brackets onto the long members in any standard OEM products.

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Smaller leaf-springs for the wheels ahead of the rear axles:
Attachment 1207696
The leaf springs used here are not smaller. These are called parabolic leaf springs which are lighter, give better ride comfort and perform better. Now the trend is towards parabolic springs at front as you may see Bharat benz or Tata Ultra product range.

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