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Old 23rd April 2015, 16:36   #61
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I understood that Emissions also played a part in phasing out of aircraft models?



Wonder how much a role that played, and which otherwise successful aircraft it affected.



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Im sure it has although with engine upgrades you can keep that in check. But at some point in time you cant just keep bolting newer engines on older planes for either technical and economical reasons.

The other reason not mentioned is noise. Noise abatement is a very thing. And again engines play a big role, but the overall package, i.e. Airframe and wings play a substantial role as well.

So both are likely to be factors in the replacement of commercial planes.

There is one other factor not mentioned before. Public sentiment. The DC10 suffered from a very poor public image. People just did not want to fly with it. So it never sold in big numbers and was ultimately phased out.

Manufacturers such as Boeing and Airbus spend a lot of time these days in PR towards the general public in order to position their planes as safe, reliable, comfortable, cool etc. Boeing started this trend with the triple7. They made a 6 part documentary that was shown around the world on Tc channels such as discovery
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The other reason not mentioned is noise.
Isn't noise also an Emission?

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Isn't noise also an Emission?
I guess that depends on your definition. The FAA always mentions them separately, so noise and emission. From a technical and a legislative point of view, they are of course very different too.

See: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...ise_emissions/

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Just came across this article on BBC, as if on que for our discussion:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-32384435

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Speaking of Jumbos,

Has anybody noticed there are quite a few (I think 3 of these) jumbos parked at the Air India hangers at Mumbai International airport. You can see these parked there when your plane taxis for the take off.

Does any body have any idea are these in operations ? or just left there to be gobbled up by mother nature!

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Jumbo is dead, long live the Super Jumbo:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/21/tr...ane/index.html

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Out goes the 380!

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/01/tr...irlines-sales/
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Being a fan of the a380, I was disturbed to see the rather misleading title on your post. For the rest who are reading this: the lot of 380s belonging to Malaysian Airlines is being offered for sale or lease according to the report. Nothing to do with the market for 380s. Seems like an uphill task for Airbus, but the 380 will survive!
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Being a fan of the a380, I was disturbed to see the rather misleading title on your post. For the rest who are reading this: the lot of 380s belonging to Malaysian Airlines is being offered for sale or lease according to the report. Nothing to do with the market for 380s. Seems like an uphill task for Airbus, but the 380 will survive!
Count me in for that. It is just bad times for MH that is causing them to sell the A380 and some of their 747 + 777. As Narayanan has quoted the example of how the 747 orders had come down, it will be a similar case with the A380. Its definitely not a small A320 or a boeing 737 to keep overflowing with hundreds of orders and backlogs. These jumbos, be it the 748 or the 380 can be used to connect trunk routes and congested airports where the traffic density is already high.
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Airbus has not had any 380 orders for quite a while. They have been seriously contemplating shutting down 380 production facilities for some time. As with the 747, we are likely to see 380s fly for years to come. All these planes last a long time. Mind you there aren't anywhere the number of 380s compared to the 747 and that is not likely to change.
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