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Old 6th February 2016, 18:58   #1
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Default Lohia Auto @ Auto Expo 2016

Lohia Auto presented a host of new products at the 2016 Auto Expo, including a new scooter, a new concept scooter, new three-wheelers, as well as new three-wheeler concepts. The Lohia stall was largely driven by green tech, focusing on the philosophies of low to no emission vehicles.

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The Lohia Elit 3000 high-speed e-scooter concept - expected to be capable of speeds of around 60 km/h, and gets a front disc brake too:
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The scooter features classy Italian styling:
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It will be available with lead-acid and lithium-ion batteries:
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In this shade, the tail light blends in quite seamlessly:
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The cockpit:
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Regular switchgear here, but...
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...the 1-2-3 markings are indicative of the speed modes you can select:
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Speedo gets markings in mp/h and km/h:
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The Oma Star Li, priced at nearly Rs. 50,000:
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Simple, inoffensive styling for mass appeal:
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The Oma Star Li can hit speeds of up to 25 km/h, with a range of around 60 km and requires no licence:
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Drum brakes:
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The big news on the Oma Star Li is the lithium-ion battery. It is a different version of the VRLA (lead-acid) battery powered Oma Star, hence the 'Li' suffix:
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Claimed charge time = less than 3 hours (vs the Oma Star's 6-8 hours):
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Digital speedometer:
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Lockable storage box:
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The petrol+CNG Humsafar cargo concept:
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The CNG concept is a good way to prep for any further moves against diesel engines (regular Humsafar uses a 436cc diesel engine):
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The zero-emission Humsafar concept, aimed at passenger applications:
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No specifics to speak of, but this will be a good move to take advantage of the Faster Adoption and Manufacturing of Hybrid and Electric Vehicles (FAME) India scheme:
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The Humsafar passenger rickshaw. The 436cc, single-cylinder diesel engine makes around 7 BHP and 18 Nm of torque:
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The new Narain LC (cargo):
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Spoke wheels:
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The Narain cargo gets a 320 kg load capacity and can hit speeds of up to 25 km/h:
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105 Ah battery sits in the under-carriage:
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The new Narain passenger e-rickshaw:
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The Narain range has batteries placed in the undercarriage. Travel range = ~100 km:
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The Humrahi passenger e-rickshaw:
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Seats 4+1:
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Range = 70-80 km:
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Batteries placed under the seat:
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Thread moved from the Assembly Line (The "Assembly Line" Forum section) to the Auto Expo section!
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Thanks Tushar!
In the speedometer of new Narain passenger e-rickshaw, speeds are marked upto 40 km/h and then it is written, ACCESS TO SAFE. Could not decipher what it meant ?
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A very interesting thread there of Lohia auto. Must say those scooters look a bit tacky at the first look, not sure of their reliability.

Some good initiatives on the green front with CNG, lithium-ion power plants and the cargo carrier Narain. The auto rickshaw looks like a clone of Piaggio though.
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The auto rickshaw looks like a clone of Piaggio though.
It is not at all surprising. Lohia in a previous avatar was in technology partnership with Piaggio. The famous LML Vespa scooters were Piaggio technology. I am not sure but I think even the initial Piaggio 3-wheeler venture here had some LML stake in it.
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Looks like a stall full of rebadged Chinese c$ap. Not a damn thing original in that stall.
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Some good initiatives on the green front with CNG, lithium-ion power plants and the cargo carrier Narain. The auto rickshaw looks like a clone of Piaggio though.
Leave apart the auto rickshaws, lets accept (for a moment) that there is hardly anything innovative that can be done as far as looks of rickshaw go.

For me Elit 3000 is a surprise and in a bad way. Doesn't it look like a complete rip-off of Vespa 946. Looks like they just took the template, added a really ugly seat and an even uglier grab rail and named it Elit, to appeal to the retro loving crowd.

The question is are we also going the chinese way of making cheap clones of some of the most successful and iconic products on the planet. I wonder what Vespa has to say about this.
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It is not at all surprising. Lohia in a previous avatar was in technology partnership with Piaggio. The famous LML Vespa scooters were Piaggio technology. I am not sure but I think even the initial Piaggio 3-wheeler venture here had some LML stake in it.
Small correction. Lohia Auto has never had any connection with Piaggio. You are confusing it with LML because initially the name of the company was Lohia Machines Limited and this company had a collaboration with Piaggio. That Lohia Machines company was an industrial equipment manufacturer who took advantage of the relaxing of norms of collaboration and managed to snare Piaggio and launched the 100 cc Vespa XE. Unlike now when nobody buys a vehicle without test riding one or at least closely inspecting one, purely on the basis of a photo and the Vespa name, Lohia Machines Limited garnered bookings in lakhs.

At that time Mrs. Indira Gandhi who was the Prime Minister of the country, made a policy that if there were private sector company collaborations then there had to be an equal number of Public Sector companies with foreign collaborations. After losing elections from Rai Bareilly which was her original constituency she also contested from Medak in the erstwhile undivided state of Andhra Pradesh and showered some goodies on the district of Medak.

The goodies that were accrued were that Andhra Pradesh Scooters Limited which was actually a part of the State owned Hyderabad Allwyn also got a collaboration opportunity with Piaggio. They christened their 100 cc Vespa as Vespa PL 170, where the PL stood for the pay load capacity of the scooter. The company claimed that it did so to break a connection that most Indians made between cubic capacity and horse power. 100 cc was 1 hp, and the company to disabuse people of this notion named the scooter after its pay load and since it could carry 170 kilograms it was named PL 170. Though it started with the intention of breaking the connection between cc and hp as 100=1, they never ever told the consumers about this properly. And what made things worse for them was that unlike the LML Vespa XE this scooter was small and narrow, a bit like the present Vepas. People therefore thought that they were being cheated and though a few lakhs of bookings were made, again by seeing the picture, decided to cancel their bookings in lakhs when the saw the scooter in metal.

Thus what was a sound product got killed by incorrect perceptions among consumers and by the company that started with the idea to change things but only ended reinforcing what was inaccurate. At that time some senior bureaucrats who were given the responsibility of running the company reached out the Prime Minister and asked her to give a one time exemption and let them launch a new and unrelated to the old scooter with a 125 cc engine. In this time the LML company unable to maintain quality and having become a target of Bajaj Auto sold out to the Singhania family. The Bajaj Cub started trouncing the Vespa XE in the market since the engine in the XE made less that 5.5 bhp of power and was ponderous vehicle to sit on and drive, especially two up.

When the green signal was given to AP scooters to go ahead with the new 125 cc the Singhania's also approached the Prime Minister for a similar concession. But due to administrative issues the AP Scooters company went into the red and relaunched the PL 170 as the PVX Vespa (which ironically was a designation used by Piaggio in Italy on scooters that looked like the LML Vespas). This further spurred LML to pressure the Prime Minister for permission to make a 150 cc scooter and the the LML Vespa 150 was born. By then the Singhanias changed the registered the name of the company from Lohia Machines Limited to LML Limited. (Swaraj Mazda Limited is SML).
The Singhanias created an advertising blitz with claims about their scooters which fell in the gray zone. Their tag line was "India's highest selling scooter with indicators", since at that time indicators were not yet compulsory and so Bajaj being Bajaj did not put them on their scooters.

What neither company anticipated was that there was going to be paradigm shift in the Indian market with the 100 cc Indo-Jap motorcycles. Neither of the two companies has marketing teams in place and LML did not have the built up capital of Bajaj to stay afloat in the market. To make things worse LML did not have the myopic vision that Bajaj had. After losing out on opportunities of tying up with Honda, Suzuki and Yamaha, Bajaj tied up with Kawasaki for making motorcycles. It was a late entrant into the motorcycle market but not too late and it helped that the product was the best looking in comparison to the other Indo-Jap bikes and also because they were a monopoly in the days of the licence Raj they had mountain loads of money to keep them afloat. The KB100 came into the market with hiccups and that is when Bajaj swiftly set up a marketing division and made changes to the KB100 like making the front sprocket of the chain to 13 from 14, lengthened the seat by making the rear cowl smaller and nearly invisible and added the suffix RTZ (which stood for nothing; it just sounded nice) and managed to convince the people to buy the KB100 RTZ.

Meanwhile LML was experimenting with various names for the same scooter and even brought out a 200cc Supremo under which sat scooters of 150 cc capacity with various names like Star etc. Bajaj while learning to build motorcycles and also selling them by adding another suffix Delta Super tuned, also were experimenting with various names for their scooters like Bravo (it was supposed to have reed valve induction), and their Chetaks, Supers, Cubs and they finally created the Legend which with all the above named scooters slowly sank. LML saw the necessity for motorcycles too late and tied up with Daelim of Korea like Kinetic which tied up with Hyosung. Both companies did not know how to sell Korean products (while the Kinetics were horribly assembled, the LML motorcycles were reasonably well made) and it was too late for them to recover. LML had bought rights to one of Piaggio's automatic scooters which they have now brought out into the market in a limited sort of way as the LML Star. LML NV was 2 stroke but could be exported back to Italy were there is no ban on 2 strokes and where people still love the PV series. Funnily enough LML sells most of its scooters in the front yard of Piaggio. LML has now introduced the 4 stroked automatic Star and the 4 stroke geared LML NV and also the 110cc Freedom motorcycle. They have not gone to the higher capacity engines from the Adreno (which had a fairing) and the Energy (with chrome bling) and a 150cc called Graptor which came into the market too late. But that company meaning LML is still in existence and selling Vespa scooters made in India in Italy, which is their market. They had at one time contemplated (in their heydays to make the Piaggio Ape) to take on Bajaj Auto' auto but never brought it out into production.

So the point of this rather looooooooooooooong post is to simply say Lohia Auto which is making electric vehicles mainly and has now tied up with UM Motorcycles to get into the market with cruisers is a completely different entity with no connection either to LML (Check their website, lmlworld.in) or to Piaggio. I hope that this Quod Erat Demonstrandum. And if you have actually read the whole of this post first thank you and second congratulations for your patience which I think amazing.
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Apologies for the dumb question but is Lohia Motors a very big player in India? I do not think they have much presence in metros like Mumbai but I might be wrong. Which are the key states where Lohia is popular?
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