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Old 9th February 2016, 11:53   #16
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... the numbering meaning. What does 3518 stand for. It means that 35 (first two figures) is the GVW and 18 stands for first two figures of the engine horse power
There's more.
LP1512c - a bus chassis with 15T GVW and a 120hp engine going by the nomenclature, however, this is an exception as TM uses a 130hp engine. The c implies it uses a Cummins power plant
LPO1512c -a bus chassis with a front Overhang, rest same as above
LPO1618c - a bus chassis with overhang rated at 16T GVW and a 180hp Cummins engine
LPO1616 CRDI- a bus chassis with overhang rated at 16T GVW and a Tata-697 derived engine
LPT1613c - a rigid truck with 16T GVW and a 130hp Cummins engine
LPK2518c - a tipper/dump truck with 25T GVW and 180hp Cummins engine
LPS4018c - a tractor head rated at 40T GVW including trailer and 180hp Cummins engine
LPTA713 - a special variant of a 7T GVW truck made for defence forces, powered by a 130hp engine

Then, there are trucks based on LPO1618c, used by car/bike manufacturers to transport products from plant to the dealers. The overhang provides for a long loading span without increasing the number of axles and tonnage.

All these are based on observation, and there could be mistakes. Others are free to correct me.
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There's more.
Thanks and Oh Yes, there is surely more.

For a layman to understand the difference between LPT/LPS/LPK/LPTA/LPO.
LP meaning has two theories :
  • LastWagen Pullman, given the German influence of TATA Mercedes tie up of yesteryear.
  • Long Platform, as per some, which i doubt.
T stands for the truck as in LPT.
K stands for Kipper(Dumper) as in LPK.
S stands for SemiTrailer as in LPS.
A stands for All wheel(4x4,6x6) drive as in LPTA.
O stands for Overhang as in LPO.

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You can tell this is the export version. Aluminium tank...
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Can someone please explain to me the link between aluminium tank and export market.
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Can someone please explain to me the link between aluminium tank and export market.
Look at the ..... and the next photo that shows the Urea tank. The export version has the Urea tanks.
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Tata Motors launches its new Signa range of Medium & Heavy Commercial Vehicles. Offered in various configurations, Signa will target segments right from haulage to construction
Signa Series is a short form of Signature series.
On a broad scale Signa was a slight disappointment as there is almost no change in Cab excepting the interiors and front grills. The cab is still a fixed cab and isn't fully floating. Also there is no change in the mechanicals. Pricing will be around 2 to 3% higher on may even be matched on product to product basis and will henceforth be the legacy model for Tata range.


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Tata calls the centre chrome bar as "Trust Bar" and will henceforth be found in all its range of Commercial vehicles. Tata wanted to communicate the Trust the customer have it on them through this.

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Wow. Good to see the 400 Ltr square Aluminium tank on the Prima on both sides.
..... So you can make out three versions of TATA trucks launched with the same 180 HP engine in the expo. Just thought i will share.
Now the fight is between Polymer tanks and Aluminium tanks as many other manufacturers are moving towards polymer tanks as well.


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What about the Busses, does anybody have pictures of them? I was expecting Tata to launch their Marcopolo Paradiso multi-axle coach at the Expo

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Only 2 buses were on display; The Ultra Electric concept and the new Starbus Hybrid.

There were two very good concepts which Tata have showcased. IMO they deserve much more attention than what was actually unenvied. Signa Series were already on last show but they haven't named it at that time. The mechanicals and BIW were completely same with the ongoing trucks. Unfortunately the two buses were positioned in a far corner of the stall and were kept open since start of the show. So most media's didn't give importance to it.

Starbus Hybrid:

Tata is pushing for more hybrids and this is a 400mm entry low floor CNG Hybrid bus. Though its a long way to go for Hybrids for Tata this was showcasing their capability. On a sidenote - A similar concept and a production version was showcased by Ashokleyland in 2010 Autoexpo as plugin and now they have come out with non plug in version as well.

Marcopolo Electric:

This is basically a electric verion of ICV ongoing buses. This is completely a concept with peripheral seating and flat floor that can be used as a feeder bus. The body is by Marcopolo and chassis is by Tata motors

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Same nomenclature with AshokLeyland, Eicher, AMW , most Indian CV's
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Eicher follows a different nomenclature, which I'm yet to figure out. However, their Pro series follows a pattern.
The <tthp> style nomenclature (where tt is the GVW and hp is the power in bhp/10) is more like a standard across the heavyweights - Daimler, MAN, Kamaz, etc to add to our homegrown giants.
Volvo Eicher - First two digits are the series name and next two digits are GVW. Pro 6025 means 6000 series and 25Tonner


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Can someone please explain to me the link between aluminium tank and export market.
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Look at the ..... and the next photo that shows the Urea tank. The export version has the Urea tanks.
There need not be direct relation between Aluminium tanks, Urea Tanks and Export Market. All this can be independently available but is a preferable combination.This product is E5 compliant and hence a SCR route was followed and hence an Urea tank. Also some markets ask for Aluminium tank and hence that was fitted. But as such Tata Prima isn't doing so much good on export market and export numbers are quite small as well and this is more for display.

The Purpose of moving away from steel tanks is to prevent corrosion and further the rust particles entering the sophisticated fuel systems and so Polymer tanks are also used for this purpose by few manufacturers.

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Tata Stall before the unvielling of Signa Trucks.
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Some exhibition from the TATA MOTORS Commercial Vehicle Business Unit (CVBU). Sharing some pictures of my visit to the stall :

This was a stand out for me :

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