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Old 6th November 2006, 10:49   #16
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The wide spokes in the steering wheel resemble a TATA.
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Old 6th November 2006, 10:52   #17
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i saw a similar looking bus in nagar some time back . it must have come to vrde for testing . was talking to the hotels manager and he said these people have come from delhi side , so maybe its a sutlej /equilvalent body with a cummins engine .

maybe ideally suited fro the northern hilly roads where it would be a big hit as it would offer comfort and manuverability, ( if you have not noticed the bus is pretty short ) over a volvo and would be also cheap to buy and maintain
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Had a look at the tata globus and this is not like that so that leaves us with the starbus range if this were to be a tata.But the problem with that is this bus does from the positioning of the passenger door does not look like a city commuter bus[think starbus is designed as a city vehicle].

Logically it should be a highway rider.But if it were an Ashok leyland would it come all the way to ARAI,pune now that such facilities are available in tamil nadu itself.

Ps: @sajo have any idea what company wheels were on the bus and get the wheel/hubs pics[which looks atleast that of an Indian manufacturer]
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Logically it should be a highway rider.But if it were an Ashok leyland would it come all the way to ARAI,pune now that such facilities are available in tamil nadu itself.

Ps: @sajo have any idea what company wheels were on the bus and get the wheel/hubs pics[which looks atleast that of an Indian manufacturer]
Yepp. Its a highway vehicle. The baggage compartments are there. All vehicles have to come to the ARAI for homologation before being launched, irrespective of the tests the manufacturer may have carried out on it to prove its worthiness.
No idea which wheels were on it (will try to find out today evening, if its still there.) . But the tyres were from JKTyre who are OEM suppliers to Tata. (Atleast, our Indigo came with them..).
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Which is this new rear-engined bus guys? Has Ashok Leyland decided to get into them? The interiors sported a nice beige theme, and it seemed a well layed out bus. The interior and exterior was devoid of any markings whatsoever. Also, its reg. no. didnt give a clue asto where it was from..




Yes, the bus is a Tata but still i have an element of doubt. Take a closer look at the front wheel. Only Tata truck/buses have such wheels. Besides the front turn indicators are taken from Tata's ubiquitous trucks. To the left of the bus in the main pic there is a yellow Tata bus of which you can clearly see the indicator ( the indicator about which i am talking ). The steering wheel and driver's seat feels like that of Tata but a similar gear knob is also found in Ashok Leyland buses too. Also, the taillamps are those found in Ashok Leyland's trucks. Maybe this is a bus based on Tata's chassis with a body built by an outsourced coach builder.

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Old 6th November 2006, 21:15   #21
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Err..the bus wasnt there today guys.. So couldnt get a pic/look at the wheels.
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dude just go up to the guy ask him what bus this is....
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dude just go up to the guy ask him what bus this is....
There is no driver around. Its was just parked in the ARAI compound with a dozen other vehicles which included abandoned & amusing three wheelers and some Ambassadors as well.
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This bus neither looks Tata nor AL. The steering could suggest TATA but the Spoke angle does not look TATA. The Front Wheelhub does not look AL neither Tata, look closely. Moreover the round central emblem marker, remember Tata no longer uses the circular T. AL rear engined busses have a lower windshield line.
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AL rear engined busses have a lower windshield line.
AL / body builder does not need to be stead-fastly sticking to past designs. Have seen similar wind-shields on buses built on AL / Tata chassis'.

If it had been either Tata / AL, they could have changed the steering / angle of steering wheel ..

The circular blank for the logo at the front could be left there by the body-builder - so it could still be a Tata.

May not be running on OEM tyres.

Head-lamps used are common. The tail lights arent so common.


The one feature I see that's not the typical Tata / AL / Volvo - is the placement of the exhaust. Volvo typically has it on the right side, pointing backwards. Most current Tata / AL have a right exiting exhaust, placed just before the rear wheel. Considering that it has come to ARAI, the position of the exhaust on this would be the original position.

Just in case this came from north of Pune ... Tata does manufacture heavier vehicles [esp trucks] in Jharkhand - but they could have sent just the chassis/frame for any homologation testing.


Just trying to say - we dont have anything much to go on in trying to identify the make.
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hmmm should close this thread till further notice....
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This bus neither looks Tata nor AL. The steering could suggest TATA but the Spoke angle does not look TATA. The Front Wheelhub does not look AL neither Tata, look closely. Moreover the round central emblem marker, remember Tata no longer uses the circular T. AL rear engined busses have a lower windshield line.


or http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=buser8.png

Compare the headlamps of this tata bus with the "mystery bus" (above).



or http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bus2fz7.png

But on other hand compare the mirrors of this Ashok Leyland bus with the "mystery bus".

The wheels are definitely of a Tata bus coz i recently travelled by Tata Globus. But i don't have a suitable pic to compare coz all pics on the web of Tata Globus are with wheelcaps.

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Saw a starbus today and can confirm that the bus is not the Tata starbus
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I think this is a Kinglong bus from China. Some of these buses are already plying in India - I have seen them in Konduskar colours and now BEST in MUmbai is aplnning to get some of them to run a luxury bus service from Thane to Dadar (in Mumbai).

This is not a Starbus, has very distinctive looks besides the Tata logo. Not Leyland either for same reasons plus their standard steering wheel/ wheel huns have different looks.

Mostly, the bus was in ARAI for its homolgation trials.
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I think this is a Kinglong bus from China. Some of these buses are already plying in India - I have seen them in Konduskar colours and now BEST in MUmbai is aplnning to get some of them to run a luxury bus service from Thane to Dadar (in Mumbai).
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If its the chinese, it would be priced well below the Globus and B7R! Operators will run after them.. Volvo and Tata sales will surely take a hit!
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