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Old 20th July 2017, 17:51   #16
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If i am in your place, without doubt i ll choose the Viking 222 SCR option for a DDAC application.
If its a non ac bus i ll go for 222 Viking i-egr as from operators am getting positive response on many aspects like negligible maintainance, no complex sensor systems and EGR with no DPF( the area where clogging happens.)

Eicher if choosen will be more like a trial and error option and frankly i ll not suggest it.

My view : 165HP SCR 222 Viking with a body mostly from SMK or Veera.
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If i am in your place, without doubt i ll choose the Viking 222 SCR option for a DDAC application.
If its a non ac bus i ll go for 222 Viking i-egr as from operators am getting positive response on many aspects like negligible maintainance, no complex sensor systems and EGR with no DPF( the area where clogging happens.)

Eicher if choosen will be more like a trial and error option and frankly i ll not suggest it.

My view : 165HP SCR 222 Viking with a body mostly from SMK or Veera.
[quote: presently i own AL buses, and i also vouch for AL, but my worries have started after the new BS4 has come to market, there problems pertaining wiring harness and fuel supply related issues, the present buses are returning back to service centers in less than 5 days after continuous running.
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we are mostly engaged in inbound tourist tour operations, they prefer center door , when compared to front door, it is little cumbersome to getin and getout.
I don't understand this logic. World over buses with single doors have the door in front overhang, while those with two have one in front overhang, and second in the wheelbase just ahead of the rear axle.
Front engine buses are not as common in the developed world as with us though.
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I don't understand this logic. World over buses with single doors have the door in front overhang, while those with two have one in front overhang, and second in the wheelbase just ahead of the rear axle.
Front engine buses are not as common in the developed world as with us though.
I think the answer lies in your question itself

The path into the passenger saloon through the door in the FOH is not as wide as the gangway, and a heavily built person won't be comfortable sneaking in, unlike walking in through a wider door on the WB that leads straight to the gangway. Unless the floor is raised to the level of the bonnet, like in the MAN FE coach, this cannot be made any better.

Having the door in the WB also provides for a secluded driver and crew cabin, helping in better noise insulation for the passenger saloon. That being said, AL engines have superior NVH characteristics compared to competition and hence even without a partition the saloon is relatively quiet.

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... my worries have started after the new BS4 has come to market, there problems pertaining wiring harness and fuel supply related issues, the present buses are returning back to service centers in less than 5 days after continuous running.
I guess these are teething issues and will be sorted out soon. The body workshops have to get used to the completely electronically managed engines and their wiring quirks. Been hearing from friends who are close to the operators and dealers that AL is providing support for these workshop technicians so that they don't make mistakes. And with the recently launched Workshop of Wheels, things should get better faster than before. You being an operator, would be able to find more information than I could.

Good luck with your purchase

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