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Old 2nd July 2007, 12:16   #31
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Winger looks great and can be used as a good Picnic vehicle. Does anybody know how the ride quality is?
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Launch of Magic shows howmuch TATAs can lobby with the GOvt and ARAI!
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The Winger.. reminds of the Tata Calypso. I cannot find any pictures of it online. I guess it was never mass produced.. am I right?? and was based on the Mercedes V Class??
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Guys, magic has jeep like fabric at the rear?

Saw it, and it seemed like jeep like fabric attached to the luggage area of the Ace.
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Old 6th July 2007, 10:58   #35
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Tata Calypso was never produced, it was ahead of it's time. Tata was trying to build it on monocoque frame and had a lot of issues with the production of this type so it was shelved.
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I got this presentation in email on Winger and Magic.
Has all sorts of technical information plus the presentation itself has been done very nicely.

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The Winger.. reminds of the Tata Calypso. I cannot find any pictures of it online. I guess it was never mass produced.. am I right?? and was based on the Mercedes V Class??
Yes you're right. Calypso was never mass produced. Yes, in terms of styling and concept, it was a Mercedes copy, like most Tata models of those days.

I really wonder what made Tata chose a discarded Renault model that isn't really much different from the indigenous Calypso. If the Calyso had some problems, Tata should have ironed them out.
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Tata Calypso was never produced, it was ahead of it's time. Tata was trying to build it on monocoque frame and had a lot of issues with the production of this type so it was shelved.

If the Calypso was ahead of time, the Winger is behind time, by about a decade! (Exactly when did Renault phase out this model?)

Can you elaborate what the issues with Calypso were and why they could not be addressed by a company with the R&D infrastructure and capabilities of Tata Motors?
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Finally they've launched the Renault Trafic derived 'Winger', jsut known as the 'Panel Van' during development! Good Going..

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Oh Mon Dieu!

A decade old renault "tried and tested" design is better than Tata trying something on its own and make prototypes for 3 years before "perfecting" it.
Moreover, In the Auto manufacturer's business, getting design and dies of discontinued models is like getting stuff from the Gujri . "Cheap and beshT"
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Oh Mon Dieu!

A decade old renault "tried and tested" design is better than Tata trying something on its own and make prototypes for 3 years before "perfecting" it.
Moreover, In the Auto manufacturer's business, getting design and dies of discontinued models is like getting stuff from the Gujri . "Cheap and beshT"
Yeah..they definitely used the discontinued models during development.
I saw the new Trafic here , in France. It looks fabulous!

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Anyone from Pune can you TD the vehicle and let us know what is the ride like is it carish/SUVish or is it like a LCV. Also can you find out the prices also for the various variants.
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The presentation was for the media people , it was good , but the Magic is ................really funny !!!!
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I'm going for a TD of the winger. It looks very appealing to me.
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All that should now happen is
... Pimp My Ride meets Winger
Winger could make a good Caravan ya!
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