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Old 11th November 2009, 16:22   #1771
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any idea , what happened to Ashok Leyland I-BUS ?
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As of now its sleeping in ALL's Tech Centre in Chennai.


Just kidding.
i-Bus is basically a concept to show how various aggregates in the bus can be modernized and suit to market requirements. Unlike car industry, which can directly start producing the vehicles, once the design is frozen here in commercial vehicle industry it can be done only when there is a requirement for the product. It cant be produced in numbers and stored in sales yard. So once there is a indent from market it will definitely be produced.

Some features like executive and economy compartments, telematics enabled passenger information system have already forayed into buses in BMTC. If the feedback is good and if required the vehicle can be produced in numbers and not just as concepts.

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This looks more like the traditional buses with doors at the front and back (more practical i guess), unlike the KerRTC ones with doors in the middle
Excuse me, but, can you please define "practical" here. Why is it that doors in the middle are "not practical". Over 4000 buses in Bangalore city run with doors in the middle, and I see no "impracticality" in those buses.

Leaving aside the arguments and questions, here is why this particular bus has a door at rear while the KeSRTC buses have it at the middle.

This bus has its engine at the front. The rear portion of the bus is free of "encumbrances" and hence they can afford to keep a door there. The KeSRTC bus has its engine at the rear. With the engine compartment present, I doubt if it would be "practical" to keep a door there.
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Excuse me, but, can you please define "practical" here. Why is it that doors in the middle are "not practical". Over 4000 buses in Bangalore city run with doors in the middle, and I see no "impracticality" in those buses.
I have seen abroad many city buses with doors at the middle. But the difference is 1) There are no reserved seats for ladies 2) Everybody board thru the front door and alight thru the center door.
I am not sure how it works in Kerala with seats for ladies at the front.
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Leaving aside the arguments and questions, here is why this particular bus has a door at rear while the KeSRTC buses have it at the middle.

This bus has its engine at the front. The rear portion of the bus is free of "encumbrances" and hence they can afford to keep a door there. The KeSRTC bus has its engine at the rear. With the engine compartment present, I doubt if it would be "practical" to keep a door there.
This picture answers your question, this is a low floor rear engine bus with a door at the back.
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It is learned that Volvo is bring a new model "B9R 9400" a 4x2 fully built bus. It has the same engine as the current B9R multiaxle. It may be to replace the existing B7R.
Also Hino is currently testing its high end bus model for launch in India.
Meanwhile Tata Motors has sold nearly 100 hispano Globus (1623HD).
Luxura....?? AL is sleeping or what!!!

The Volvo LE buses for trivandrum under Jnnurm is expected to be inaugrated on 17th. Meanwhile 15 Ashok Leyland LE non a/c buses is expected a week later. Reliable sources suggest delay is due to registration issues with RTA.
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I have seen abroad many city buses with doors at the middle. But the difference is 1) There are no reserved seats for ladies 2) Everybody board thru the front door and alight thru the center door.
I am not sure how it works in Kerala with seats for ladies at the front.
In bangalore, as I said earlier, there are about 4000 buses with the door at the middle. The "rear" door is used by males to alight/board the bus, while the front door is used by ladies. The front section in ALL these buses are reserved for ladies.

So where is the point of "no-reservation" here?
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The "rear" door is used by males to alight/board the bus, while the front door is used by ladies.
I dont see any extra benefits by having it at the middle then.
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Spotted this biggie here at Nagpur, this 200+ wheeled giant is carrying some part for the power plant being built near Raipur.It started from Mumbai 30 days back and will take atleast 10 days more to reach its destination.Haulers were Volvo Fm 520 hp tractors and a Fh for back up.Here are the pics...
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Spotted this biggie here at Nagpur, this 200+ wheeled giant is carrying some part for the power plant being built near Raipur.It started from Mumbai 30 days back and will take atleast 10 days more to reach its destination.Haulers were Volvo Fm 520 hp tractors and a Fh for back up.Here are the pics...

Thanks, Great find agspins & informative too! Do you know how much it weighs. Is all the three prime movers on power? Is there any prime mover pushing from rear?
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i don't get it, how will the volvos pull something massive like that??

also what are these things marked in the picture??

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Thanks, Great find agspins & informative too! Do you know how much it weighs. Is all the three prime movers on power? Is there any prime mover pushing from rear?
Hydraulic trailers are manufactured Tratec india one of the leading trailer manufacturers in the country.This one was TRT/MT series trailer with capacity of 600+
tons.This one was around 370 tons(Girder Bridge application is what they call that massive thingy).On enquiring again i came to know that there is one pusher and two haulers.Maximum distance covered by them is 40 kms a day.Tech snag operations were halted,Today i think it will move out of city.

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i don't get it, how will the volvos pull something massive like that??

also what are these things marked in the picture??
When 500+Hp tractors are pulling and pushing something, i think a certain pace is generated to move some thing this huge, the one behind the tractors are generators
to generate more power or something of that sorts, even i need to understand what exactly it does, the ones in front of tractors are towing hooks.
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i don't get it, how will the volvos pull something massive like that??

also what are these things marked in the picture??

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Hydraulic trailers are manufactured Tratec india one of the leading trailer manufacturers in the country.This one was TRT/MT series trailer with capacity of 600+
tons.This one was around 370 tons(Girder Bridge application is what they call that massive thingy).On enquiring again i came to know that there is one pusher and two haulers.Maximum distance covered by them is 40 kms a day.Tech snag operations were halted,Today i think it will move out of city.

When 500+Hp tractors are pulling and pushing something, i think a certain pace is generated to move some thing this huge, the one behind the tractors are generators
to generate more power or something of that sorts, even i need to understand what exactly it does, the ones in front of tractors are towing hooks.

agspins; it's a great piece of information regarding the load & trailer!

This Volvo FH16 is specially crafted to haul super heavy loads & it has a CVW of around 200ton. Normally in these trucks the chassis is furhter strenghten, the gear ratio & engine tunning, etc. is reset, since the engine is running in high torque the engine gets heated fast, for that the cooling system also improved. Internationally Merc & MAN is famous for these prime mover & they used to have sperate stabiliser & cooling radiators behind the driver's cab! In volvo its not seen.

The huge box are used with to fit generators to power up the hydraullic system of the multi axle trailers. If not it'll be used to put heavy iron/concrete block to give some weight to the prime mover, other wise it'll not get grip to pull such a heavy load!

The extention on the front of the prime mover is used to connect either the trailer or the adjuscent prime mover when more than one engine is on function!

Untitled Document : link to the company who done the logistics.

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@hanmust - does this mean that the tractor supplies power to the trailers,a nd the wheels of the trailers are powered from the "whatever" is marked on the above pic?

BTW - the logistics company does seem to have MAN trucks.
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This is an interesting video to watch.




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This videos is of single Actros 4860 SLT 8x8 prime mover moving a load of around 220tons & is moving prestty fast considering the snail like movements of these mammoeths. Actros SLT can pull a load of 250 tons in ease & if situation permits at a speed of 80kph. It' also has got a world record of carrying the heaviest load of 500ton with single unit. Here is the report. Daimler Tugs Soviet Buran Spaceship, Self - Actros SLT - Jalopnik

Watch the video & see how they move the consignment by making articificial deviations & the turning of the trailer.



This video is from Dubai; Mammoet, specialist in heavy logistics transported some heavy load in a oil field (pure off road in sand) with a specially made Actros SLT 8x8 prime mover. This Actros was actually designed & showcased in a military expo from where Mammoet bought it for their special assignments.

Watch the four wheel having couple of rotation before getting the required grip.



Baumman carrying pretty heavy stuff with two Actros SLT tractors:


Some interesting video from which we can learn how these heavy consignments are transported & jacked. Even though its debbed in some non English languare, with the graphics we can understand the things.




A load of 700 tons moved by two MAN TGX 41.680 8x4 trailers





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