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Old 11th December 2007, 21:45   #16
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There seems to be some confusion on this thread. To clear it up, what engine does this have EXACTLY? Some may not know that for the last few months Sumo has gone to its 3.0L with a turbo as the standard engine. Is this the engine you mean or the little 1998cc with turbo?

Anyway, looks like a right sized utilitarian work horse.

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Dan, it's the 1948cc TCIC Engine in the Luxury version. The 3.0L TC is not an option currently on the Winger.

Here's a snapshot of the spec sheet.
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There's no big confusion guys. It's the 1948cc engine doing duty in there. The standard version comes without a Turbo and it puts out 75 puny BHPs. The deluxe and luxury version puts out 90BHP thanks to the Turbo.
The 90BHP versions don't feel underpowered in the city and is capable of some quick accelerations. But anyday, the 3L dicor with that meaty turbo would've been rocking. There're some rumours going around of it going to be shown in this Auto expo 08. Let's wait and see!

Dan! Thanks for the picture. Doesn't he/she looks beautiful?
And Condor, the specs! Thanks.
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Is it true that the Sumo 2.0 Turbo Engine only has a Top Speed of 125 kmph. :(
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That engine did better speeds when it was in the Sierra Turbo. The 1850kg kerb weight of the Victa holds it back a bit.
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In case anyone has missed it, this one is a FWD !

Zak, did you notice /realise this ?
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Condor ji where were you not to be seen much here?

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In case anyone has missed it, this one is a FWD !

Zak, did you notice /realise this ?
Our old Matador's are also front wheel drives. (Mag where's my beer!) But they made one model which was a rwd but not many of those are on the roads.
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saw a winger yesterday, wanted one straightaway. this is the ideal family vacation vehicle. A conversion to caravan with sunroof would be ideal. but unfortunately, after my recent shopping spree, there is no Vit M left for another vehicle. so I'll wait. hopefully, in 2-3 years time, there are going to be better options. but this is brilliant value for money!

somethings that put me off

1.like zak said- short drivers will have a problem, its true- reaching the clutch pedal was a stretch for me

2. rear wheel drive would have been better, Tata has plenty of experience with RWD layouts. why didnt they put that in? is it cost?
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Another breadbox on wheels. Prehistoric design. Maybe ok for the price. Possibly zero resale.
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2. rear wheel drive would have been better, Tata has plenty of experience with RWD layouts. why didnt they put that in? is it cost?
Because TATA didn't design it. They just adopted it for the Indian market.
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Another breadbox on wheels. Prehistoric design. Maybe ok for the price. Possibly zero resale.
Not really, we should not compare this with cars. Compare with people movers available in India. Tata vehicles, generally have decent resale value and good service network, you can go anywhere in India. Considering that we individuals go for delux version, and hold it for atleast 5-7 years, I wouldn't have worried about the resale value.

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I just saw one today on the way to office and realized its FWD like Condor has already pointed out. Wonder what changes have been made to the gearbox to adapt it to FWD
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Actually the Winger is not as big. I saw it zipping past me last evening. The winger came over from my left, cut me and i was pretty surprised with the agility of the box. he was able to maneuver out of a jam, and then accelerate pretty fast. I was trying to catch up and take some pictures, but I got stuck behind a bus! :(
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In case anyone has missed it, this one is a FWD !

Zak, did you notice /realise this ?
Arrey Baba! Why else do you think it has such a good flat floor behind. If it was a RWD, then this benefit would've been definitely gone for a toss.
I think it's a good thing They've kept this as a FWD.
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madan80 : Actually the Winger is not as big.
There are two versions - you have encountered the shorter WB version.
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