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Old 11th June 2015, 05:42   #31
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An arjun? No certainly not - the Arjun was based off a late model Soviet design, while what you see above is a WW-II vintage light tank (or more accurately, a mobile gun platform) of US design. Just because it has treads and mounts a gun doesn't make it a tank, let alone an arjun.
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Oh - there is a towing hook - and a big one - behind the tank turret as you can see. Question is - what will they get that can tow something weighing several tons.
A friend of mine says that is a mount for for light machine guns on the rear of the turret. Tow hooks are present on the body. More pics here http://www.site.ww2mv.com/
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An arjun? No certainly not - the Arjun was based off a late model Soviet design, while what you see above is a WW-II vintage light tank (or more accurately, a mobile gun platform) of US design. Just because it has treads and mounts a gun doesn't make it a tank, let alone an arjun.

I think he was referring to the older images on the thread.
BTW The Arjun was never based if Soviet design but on the Leopard/leclerc design. Soviet tanks are medium (40-45 ton) machines and the Arjun is a heavy (50-70) design. The Soviet T 's have a 3 man system with autoloader. The Arjun is a 4 man tank like most western systems.

Small nitpick - tanks don't have treads they have tracks.
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BTW The Arjun was never based if Soviet design but on the Leopard/leclerc design.
Spot ON
The first photograph though posted a few years back of a tank being transported is most likely of an Arjun MBT. No of bogies is a give away.
Picture at #27 is that of an M 18 which has a mortar fitted , used in early 40s by the Americans.
The western and eastern philosophy of making tanks is totally different. Arjun is based on western philosophy and uses an MTU (German ) power pack developing 1440 horses, but with almost 60 tons the P/W ratio still is not anything to talk about.
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The first photograph though posted a few years back of a tank being transported is most likely of an Arjun MBT. No of bogies is a give away.
Picture at #27 is that of an M 18 which has a mortar fitted , used in early 40s by the Americans.
The western and eastern philosophy of making tanks is totally different. Arjun is based on western philosophy and uses an MTU (German ) power pack developing 1440 horses, but with almost 60 tons the P/W ratio still is not anything to talk about.
Though the P/W ratio is not very high, it is how the torque is transferred that is important. The Arjun is very comparable to the Challenger in terms of outright power. It is also a very well protected tank, with the Kanchan armour said to be comparable to Chobham. Also has high crew survivability (Ammunition stored in a separate compartment with blow off panels (doesn't cook off like the in the T-6X,7X). Uses a Rifled Bore gun (again similar to Challenger). Has an APU unit (engine can be kept off when in position).
One of the reasons for the higher weight is the overengineering. This was the first attempt at making the tank ourselves and it has been overengineered for sure.
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One of the reasons for the higher weight is the overengineering. This was the first attempt at making the tank ourselves and it has been overengineered for sure.
Torque curve you are obviously in love with the Arjun. So happy to see that.
Yes this was the first tank developed by us but with parts from all over the world. The initial project was our own engine and what happened on test bed is best read from Janes Review of mid nineties. Then we went engine hunting.
So now we have a mix and match tank which is not serving the purpose for which it was designed. It is like i ordered a tire for my car and i was provided a truck tire saying its a tire we designed after all and use it.
I have seen all Prototypes and am aware of what is there and what is not. Great effort in terms of a step towards indigenisation, but in end not of much use. Would have loved if we would have taken this experience to the next level and redesigned a new combat tank as per the requirements.
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