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Old 17th February 2010, 13:42   #121
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Old 17th February 2010, 13:54   #122
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first vehicle is by Mahindra defence systems...here is interior pic of the same.
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Old 22nd February 2010, 00:21   #123
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leyland how ingenious is that. to keep the fuel tank exposed.

I know, i know you people will say its reinforced and armored.

But it seems and looks no match for even a hollow point, let alone shrapnel from IED.

ALso the tank is right on the edge of the belly. That will make ied shrapnil go like a shape charge on its path, making it more effective.
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Old 22nd February 2010, 13:13   #124
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Credit: Kunal Biswas of Militrayphotos.net. This guy is the most prolific poster in that forum and has an amazing collection of IA photos.

Vehicles from Al, MM, PunjLloyd, ST kinetics.
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Old 22nd February 2010, 16:29   #125
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design of Punj lloyd is great. But a Big generator like exposed motor at the back is questionable.

where will they put the armaments. in front boot. Three link suspension is ingenious but looks fragile.

Less can be said about leyland bus. have they just painted the Viking city bus and armored it to gills. what were they thinking. In a combat zone it will just be a big fat sitting duck with doubtful maneuverability.


what company is ST Kinetics. ??
They have revived the WWII Gama goat. thats just great

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The Ahsok Lyland bus is the best vehicle for the army.. it will scare the enemy to death.
By the way is the AXE approved? is it in production?
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The Ahsok Lyland bus is the best vehicle for the army.. it will scare the enemy to death.
By the way is the AXE approved? is it in production?
Now our guys will kill them when they are busy laughing their guts out seeing the vehicle.
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leyland how ingenious is that. to keep the fuel tank exposed.

I know, i know you people will say its reinforced and armored.

But it seems and looks no match for even a hollow point, let alone shrapnel from IED.

ALso the tank is right on the edge of the belly. That will make ied shrapnil go like a shape charge on its path, making it more effective.
I'm telling you the DRDA needs brainy ppl and should get inputs from people who know what they talk !
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thats how drdo or any sarkari company is run in india.

If you recall cost of developing our main MBT, arjun, was ridiculously higher than what what it would have cost to buy license from Russia to built their products. And what thats what they are doing now in large scale.

i had couple of CAG reports that was put on public domain. It clearly mentioned in an elaborate white papers about our Jonga made in VFJ.

after the restructuring the VFJ factory spending crores of rupees. tHe factory actually produced 20,000 less vehcile than the previous year before restructuring.

and people thinks india is poor.

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thats how drdo or any sarkari company is run in india.

If you recall cost of developing our main MBT, arjun, was ridiculously higher than what what it would have cost to buy license from Russia to built their products. And what thats what they are doing now in large scale.

i had couple of CAG reports that was put on public domain. It clearly mentioned in an elaborate white papers about our Jonga made in VFJ.

after the restructuring the VFJ factory spending crores of rupees. tHe factory actually produced 20,000 less vehcile than the previous year before restructuring.

and people thinks india is poor.
In my opinion, the Army is better of scrapping the Arjun MBT project altogether. It looks like the army is more inclined on the T-90 tanks and wants the blue print for indigenous production. The project is already 30+ years overdue. Its sad to see such things especially when the Arjun MBT had the potential to become the main front line tank. When will the DRDO people wake up and realize the fact that there is a major arms race in the sub-continent and we are slowly losing the edge.
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AntiTerrorist vehicle patrolling in mumbai
Cammo paintjob but gleaming silver alloys. Looks like a rebodied Mubai Police Qualis.
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thats how drdo or any sarkari company is run in india.

If you recall cost of developing our main MBT, arjun, was ridiculously higher than what what it would have cost to buy license from Russia to built their products. And what thats what they are doing now in large scale.
Ridicoulosy higher, care to elaborate. What was the figures in other nations. Are you aware of the fact that T-90 was stripped down and then imported so that cost per unit remains low making it look cheaper than the Arjun, Our T-90s are still bight blind, now we are negotiating with the ruskies to upgrade them.

Ever wondered why the IA refuses to have a one to one comparison against the Arjun.

When these news came out in press the IA reluctanly had to give orders for 124 Arjun, half of which has been delivered.
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One question comes to mind. How about the testing of these armored vehicles ? I mean where is it done ? How is it done ? Do they blow up real vehicles with real landmines / bazookas / grenades ? Do they test them with gunfire with real bullets ? I mean who does the "battle survivability" testing of these ?
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Ever wondered why the IA refuses to have a one to one comparison against the Arjun.
Well how do you really compare the two? They are two very different tanks. The T 90 and the Arjun are very different from the design philosophy and the operational capabilities point of view. In fact, as the the latest media reports coming in the media suggest that the tests are due to take place, but not as a one is to one competition but so as to decide upon the best operational utilisation of the platforms.
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Well how do you really compare the two? They are two very different tanks. The T 90 and the Arjun are very different from the design philosophy and the operational capabilities point of view. In fact, as the the latest media reports coming in the media suggest that the tests are due to take place, but not as a one is to one competition but so as to decide upon the best operational utilisation of the platforms.
The two main defects where its weight and proportion.

Weight argument is a failed one due to its low ground pressure per area compared to other platforms.

Railways have developed the new wagon to carry the Arjun.

One is to one, T-90 nor the shabby T-72 will stand ground against the Arjuns.

Rest all are excuses to keep this project under the cover.


The T-90 was presented to Parliament and made to look value for money by importing them without nightvision and other IA demanded electronics.

After importing, the corrupt officials issued a seperate contract to fit in with those stripped equipements.
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