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Old 27th November 2009, 15:20   #16
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I don't think this ban will come in to effect. It will be shot down by the courts. If at all, it can be only prospective - no new permits will be issued for Omnis, existing taxis can't be touched.
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Old 27th November 2009, 15:24   #17
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If Omni is an unsafe vehicle on Indian roads, then so are 80% of our cars, autos, bikes and not to forget all our aged governments' car fleet!! I would be happy if this WB minister can take this "safety apron" to all states and government office country wide to comply with his notion!!
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A good move IMO on part of the minister. At least it is a step in the right direction. Next should be the autorickshaws replaced by Nanos...
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Old 27th November 2009, 16:00   #19
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Good move. I think all the state should re-look to this decision. Ultimately its all about passengers safety concern. The owner are of the vehicle is less or not at all bother for passengers safety...
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Old 27th November 2009, 16:05   #20
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No. This ban is not justified.

1) As DECite pointed out, there are some hand driven carts, they should be banned first.

2) Next we come to autos, they must be banned. High chances are there that the human who used to travel around in Omni will end up travelling in Auto rather than Indigo or Wagon R.

3) Its simply unfair to ban vehicles like this. Tata Ace's van version that is either about to be launched or the current soft top model must also be banned if these are standards of WB government.

4) Its not used as commercial taxi, but I am sure that Omni will be registered as private vehicle and then be used as commercial vehicle, either overloaded with school kids or passengers.

5) Rather than focussing on a particular car, focus on better driver discipline that would eliminate most issues in the first place.
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Old 27th November 2009, 16:19   #21
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But only Maruti Omni's as cabs are unsafe? What about private Omni's?

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Old 27th November 2009, 16:19   #22
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Isnt vehicle safety test done by ASI?
When we have a central agency in the country to determine if a vehicle is safe or not, why do govt of a perticular state have to overrule it? Isnt that diluting the authority of the agency? Or is it that the life of a person living in WB is more valuable than the life of a person living elsewhere.

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3) Its simply unfair to ban vehicles like this. Tata Ace's van version that is either about to be launched or the current soft top model must also be banned if these are standards of WB government.
The Super Ace Van would be meeting the upcoming crash norms.

The Ace Magic is amazingly well built. Its got a roll cage (kind of; perhaps some techies can clarify) over it. I would bet it will roll over multiple times without roof collapse. Can't say the same on Omni.

Perhaps Maruti can upgrade it if they are serious about sales. Its still selling decently. No pain, no gain.
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Is the WB Govt making up to Tata by removing the biggest competitor from the market?

There are rumors of a new Tata van in direct competition to the Omni.
and then we hear this.
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Old 27th November 2009, 16:33   #25
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Get the nanos in to replace the autos.The nanos cost about 1.7 lakh OTR.
The price of an Autorickshaw is about 1.6 lakhs in Bangalore.
The Nano-taxi could also be a replacement of sorts to the Omni.
In any case , The omni's been around for a while and India needs to start behaving like a developed nation.Hope this rule stays and is not forced to take a
U-turn because of political compulsions.MSIL has made enough money on the
Omni.If they want to stop pretending to serve the Indian consumer , let them make it safe (by some means) or at least sell it for less.The fact that the 800 and the omni are running and people still buying is the finest example of .
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The fact that the 800 and the omni are running and people still buying is the finest example of .
You do realise that there's an absence of choice in that price range? Particularly for a van. Its not the customers' fault. Its not entirely Maruti's fault either since this is purely business. Maybe someone will come up with a safe van in that price bracket. Tata's ace seems to be on the right track but again, I'm not sure about its safety since it too has no space in front of the driver.

The government cannot ban these cars just like that since there are no alternatives. The only thing that the government can do is announce a change in minmal safety requirements for cars from, say, 2012 or something along those lines. That gives manufacturers enough time to develop an alternative.
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You do realise that there's an absence of choice in that price range? Particularly for a van. Its not the customers' fault.
@McLaren: Precisely. The only issue here is that, there should be some effort and seriousness towards safety in a country which has close to the highest number of casualties because of road accidents. Let this be debated and let the facts come out. I appeal to someone to bring out the facts with how much MUL makes on an OMNI. I am pretty sure they make atleast an 80-100% margin. With that kind of revenue, they are still sitting pretty. Why not atleast invest something and bring out a safer product for the same price? It's being done all over the world.Educated customers make a choice. Atleast then they are aware and empowered to take the right buying decisions.

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Old 27th November 2009, 17:56   #28
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In Kolkata itself I do not think there are any omni taxis! So no one is affected as of now. Also, I have personally talked to 2-3 taxi drivers and they still prefer the HM amby to Indigo/wagonR. If anyone has seen a Indigo/WagonR taxi in Kolkata - kindly update. Amby is still the car of choice for Kolkata yellow cabs
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THis minsister should be made the Transports and roads minister of India..!! good move by him
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Old 27th November 2009, 18:08   #30
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It is obviously an unsafe car. In Head on collision at relatively moderate speed, there are more chances of damage and these vans are mainly used to ferry children to school. I welcome this move.
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