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Old 12th October 2010, 21:47   #271
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I said bogie suspension is now offered as an option, not standard.
I am not aware of any TML products with boggie suspension as option. As this involves not only change in the suspension but will have a change in spring brackets and frame assy as well!

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Some Oooover hangin AL 2518.
Look at the internal flitch welding and additional cross member.
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TML trucks with bogie suspension are regularly made for export purposes, and thus the same is offered in India as optional on most models.
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You are right about the 1st point, except you have to exclude TML from the list. As most of TMLs axles are produced sort of in house. They are actually produced by HV Axles Limited, which has its production facilities inside the Jamshepdur plant itself.

I said bogie suspension is now offered as an option, not standard. The models you mention have them as a standard feature, as they are mostly aimed at the bigger less cost sensitive customers. You are right that they can handle overload better as well, but when you consider the knowledge level of an average small fleet owner, and adding to it the extra cost of the bogie suspension, its not very common.
Yes, i am aware of HV Axles and they produce RA108 / RA109 type of axles for Tata range of MCV and Multiaxle 2515/2516 models. But the subject we are discussing is heavyaxles with hub reduction. There are no axles with hub reduction made by HV axles!

Also please tell which export models of TML has bogie suspension (excluding Novus/Prima) as standard fittement.

Bogie suspenion is not currently even offered as option, in any TML LPT2515/2516/3118 etc in domestic market. And i don't think you should underestimate any small fleet owners knowledge, because the application and load characteristics determine whether to go for a bogie or not! And that is the reason why even TML & AL does not offer bogie suspension as standard / optional in multiaxle haulgage models. May be in future it will be not so.
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Bogie suspenion is not currently even offered as option, in any TML LPT2515/2516/3118 etc in domestic market.
Yes, Bogie is not offered as option in any of the haulage segment under tata brand except 4923 TT.
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A fire truck on Ashok Leyland Beaver chassis. I believe its a 1996-97 model vehicle, with 11.00x20 tyres as standard fittment. Notice that the rear axle has "hub reduction". The vehicle belongs to FACT.
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Yes, Bogie is not offered as option in any of the haulage segment under tata brand except 4923 TT.
Well, I have seen Bogie suspension on new versions of LPT2516C and LPK2518C 6X4 Tippers from TATA near Khandwa road construction going near outer skirts of Indore. No idea if its an option or latest standard fitment.

A nice link for Hub Reduction tech:

http://www.volvo.com/NR/rdonlyres/BA...DRIVEAXELS.pdf

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Well, I have seen Bogie suspension on new versions of LPT2516C and LPK2518C 6X4 Tippers from TATA near Khandwa road construction going near outer skirts of Indore. No idea if its an option or latest standard fitment.
I said only in haulage segment. In tipper its available in 2521 and not in 2516, 2518.
In AL also its available in 2521 Tipper - These are primarily used in Mining application.
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I said only in haulage segment. In tipper its available in 2521 and not in 2516, 2518.
In AL also its available in 2521 Tipper - These are primarily used in Mining application.
In tipper its available in 2518 also check out this link:

Tata Construck 25 Ton Multi Axle Tippers - LPK 2518 HD

http://construck.tatamotors.com/broc...lpk-2518HD.pdf

It says 6X4 & Bogie suspension

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In tipper its available in 2518 also check out this link:

Tata Construck 25 Ton Multi Axle Tippers - LPK 2518 HD

http://construck.tatamotors.com/broc...lpk-2518HD.pdf

It says 6X4 & Bogie suspension
Thats a new info to me. Thanks
I took referance from this foto.
Don worry this is 2518c only..
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Like I said both kinds of suspension are available in the 2516, 2518 or the 3118 series though only as option not as standard. While on the 2523 series it is standard.

As for Hub reduction axles, HVAL now makes the HR210 rear axle as well which is a hub reduction axle. TML doesnt commonly use axles from Meritor, except in the case of the Prima range, which makes up a miniscule amount of its sales.
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TML doesnt commonly use axles from Meritor, except in the case of the Prima range, which makes up a miniscule amount of its sales.
I think LPK2518HD apart from Bogie suspension also uses HUB reduction as well. Have a look at its axles in brochure.[correct me if i am wrong]

http://construck.tatamotors.com/broc...lpk-2518HD.pdf

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No, I dont think this is the HR210 axle. This is what is called the SRT2 tandem axles from HVAL.
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hi guys is it possible to build fuel tanker on this chassis?
what will be the aprox capacity in liters? (normal 10 tyre/3axle has 16000 lt capacity)
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You guys might think I am a bit nuts, but since the past couple of days, I am seeing a Tata truck undergoing testing, which has not one, but TWO of what appeared to be lift axles.
It was like the 3118, but with two instead of one axle.
Just double checked with another sighting before I am posting it here. Has anyone else seen it undergoing testing on NH4 ? What could be the purpose/application ?
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