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Old 20th May 2011, 10:22   #646
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If it is a swb bus, chances are that it is a truck chassis.
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Comet Super was the model with a longer front overhang and was very popular as a petroleum tanker, where it was mostly used. The product dates back to the mid-80s. If I am not mistaken, the Tusker series came after this.
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@hvkumar: Yes, Comets was earlier ones and Tusker series are produced later only.
Thanks for your answers, but I'm pretty sure that the buses that I mentioned did have 'Comet Super' badging. IF I get to see those buses the next time I visit KL, I'll try to post a pic - those buses used to be neatly maintained by KSRTC PLKD depot.

Out of curiosity, what's happening to the higher powered U-trucks from AL - the site still shows the biggest engine option as the 230hp CRS one.
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Comet was AL's most popular model in the 1970s. It was available both in truck and bus versions. It competed directly with Tata's 1210 which too came in both truck and bus versions. Comet had short front overhang. In those days, suffixes like "Super", "Gold", etc. weren't used.

In mid seventies, AL introduced the Viking bus chassis which had long front overhang and which many drivers found somewhat funny/difficult to steer. Then Tata also introduced a long front overhang 1210. In late 1970s, AL introduced the Cheetah bus chassis with short front overhang, like in the earlier Comet but, IIRC, it came with a front cowl unlike the earlier Comet.

Tusker truck model was popular in early 1980s. It was advertised as a 13-tonner. It came with a front cowl, Tata style, with headlight set in the bumper. It was even used as a bus chassis by some SRTCs. Tata's answer to the Tusker was Tata 1312 (not to be confused with Cummins-equipped 1312 bus chassis that appeared in 1990s) which had a slightly bigger 5 litre 120 HP engine compared to 1210's 112 HP 4.8 litre. The higher displacement was achieved by increasing the bore from 92 MM to 95 MM, stroke remaining the same at 120 MM. 1312 was only available as a truck chassis although some people did construct bus bodies on it too.

Comet Super, Tusker Super, Tusker Gold, Tusker Turbo models came later.
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Tusker truck model was popular in early 1980s. It was advertised as a 13-tonner. It came with a front cowl, Tata style, with headlight set in the bumper.
The headlight in bumper was started in the Comet series itself, the one with the narrow double slat design grilles. However, that design was changed and in subsequent vehicles, headlights were mounted up.
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The headlight in bumper was started in the Comet series itself, the one with the narrow double slat design grilles. However, that design was changed and in subsequent vehicles, headlights were mounted up.
Yes, I remember an AL ad published in Reader's Digest between 1973-75 in which they had discussed various benefits of the new cowl design - the one with headlight and indicators set in the bumper. Tusker wasn't around that time. The main objective of setting the lights in the bumper was to reduce glare caused to oncoming drivers and to illuminate the road better. Tata also lowered the headlights in 1977 when it launched 1210E model chassis. More recently, Tata have lowered the headlights in their old design semi-forward control trucks.
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Heard that 3118 is undergoing some serious trouble. Potential failures like axle beam bend, axle arm crack,frame bend. Several vehicles are held up and major aggregates are replaced it seems.
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An Andhra LPT3118C with a shortened frame converted into a Tipper ( why would someone do this? As if enough alternatives on the market aren't factory made)?:
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Spotted a couple of these monsters doing around 105 to 120kmph on the chennai-tindivanam highway

No car or any other vehicle had the guts to overtake them until they took the exit toward chengelpet.

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The following also belonged to the same contractor I believe.
The only difference being the one you chased is a Box and the below one is Scow
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Another difference to, he chased a 3123 and not a 2523.

Also, sorry to say, but the pretty much new truck already has a failed brake light at the back.
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@ Juluplani you are right.
By the time I realised my mistake you have posted it right!
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An Andhra LPT3118C with a shortened frame converted into a Tipper ( why would someone do this? As if enough alternatives on the market aren't factory made)?:
That's a nice sccop indeed.
But this does not/ cannot have a GVW of 31T though the axle configuration calls of 31T as you can see(most likely) the tipper body is a 14Cu.m box aganist the normal 22Cu.M for 8x4.
Leaving this aside there are so many questions like is the drive 8x2 or 8x4, FSM web height, cross members location, thickness and even ROH.
Looking into these, this can be soft tippers instead of a regular model.
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...and most importantly I forgot to mention about PTO in Gear box and gear ratios.
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Tata has introduced 2513 - BS III for rated load application in general cargo movement.This is yet an another example of Tata motors strategy of offering products for all application in each segment.
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Whoa!! That was quick, didnt expect it to get launched this soon. Had heard about this a few months back.

Though I wasn't and am still not convinced that this is a good idea, as penny pinching customers will start replacing their 2515s with 2513s, to save on cost.
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Though I wasn't and am still not convinced that this is a good idea, as penny pinching customers will start replacing their 2515s with 2513s, to save on cost.
That's obvious and I also cannot tell this is a right (though as a principle I agree) as this will only pull down the market maturity.
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