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Old 13th November 2010, 06:27   #151
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I got this Sutlej AC bus on a Thekkady trip. Looks sweet.
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Default BS3 buses

With BS3 enforced, TML has completely stopped supply of its MCV buses with 697engine here in kerala. Instead new BS3 1512c (Cummins engine) is being promoted in the market. The biggest attraction claimed is that the engine is purely mechanical without any electronic controls unlike its competor AL BS3 model. The BS3 Tata697 engine is an EDC (electronic diesel control) based one and is offered on tippers & trucks.

Meanwhile AL has already supplied BS3 (EDC enabled hino engine) Viking models in tourist segment but has not yet started supply in private route bus segment. Some sources indicate they are going to launch buses fitted with BS3 compliant mechanical (FIP) engine, as was done for BS2, to takeon the competition. In 2005, AL made a huge success in private bus segment in kerala with its buses fitted with BS2 H6Eti Inline FIP engine, while TML had 697TCIC with rotaryFIP. It was during this period AL grabed a large share of Cochin city bus segment, the largest stronghold market of TML buses in kerala. Due to factors like low maintenance cost, local servicability etc InlineFIP engine is more prefered by customers (eventually headed to change as emission norms tighten!)
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...Some sources indicate they are going to launch buses fitted with BS3 compliant mechanical (FIP) engine, as was done for BS2, to takeon the competition.....
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Have been seeing this for several days near my TVM office; strangely, their office is enar my home @ Ernakulam. Probably, most of the time, this bus is doing what it is supposed to do.

The front:-

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Side; the huge circular board you see is NOT my office lol

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Funnily, they are amost always parked at the same slot - see that small board behind the bus in the second pic. Sometimes, a fully a/c bus from the same operator is seen here. Probably, some "conducted / chartered tour" operates regularly and uses the Keys hotel here as overnight camp.

I especially love the first window on the side. Looks nice.

Edit:- Head lamps from scorpio, where are the tail lamps from?

Pics from mobile in bright sunlight, could not compose the frame properly.

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Edit:- Head lamps from scorpio, where are the tail lamps from?
They seem to be two OHC taillamps - lower one inverted and upper one in normal orientation. I see many buses using this combination here in Mumbai
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The headlamps are from Gen 1 Scorpio, tail lamps are from gen 2 OHC - there are two of them, one placed upside down - this setup is commonly seen here in "tourist coaches". The body (and possibly the bus as well) is quite old. Is the bus a re-registration from another state? I guess it is.

EDIT: I don't see a firetruck inside the Fire station.

OT: Bright sunlight??? The recent updates from my folks in Kerala always mention about torrential rain - makes me wonder if Chirrapunji got shifted to God's own country

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body (and possibly the bus as well) is quite old. Is the bus a re-registration from another state? I guess it is.
No, cannot say on that. Cannot rule out though. But is is very un-blemished.

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I cannot make out the display on the phone's screen.
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The Hindu : Karnataka / Bangalore News : Three premium services from KSRTC

In the above news link, the KSRTC MD talks about a new chassis identified by them with 220hp and an facility to add a engine run AC compressor. Which can this be, is it the Tata 1623 chassis or something from ALL??
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The Hindu : Karnataka / Bangalore News : Three premium services from KSRTC

In the above news link, the KSRTC MD talks about a new chassis identified by them with 220hp and an facility to add a engine run AC compressor. Which can this be, is it the Tata 1623 chassis or something from ALL??
Also the news talks about
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service priced above Suvarna Karnataka and below Rajahamsa. These coaches, built on a 12-metre chassis, will have two-plus-two seating arrangement with semi-reclining facility. Two such buses are on trial operation between Kundapur and Bangalore via Shimoga,
What make are these? Are these the Tata 1618, Prakash built coaches, some one posted earlier?
Eventually i guess both categories will be a mix of AL and TMs.
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Got this mail from Ashok Leyland, just posting it here if at all this has not been discussed-

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We are pleased to introduce our new range of buses with 'H' series engine having customer friendly inline Fuel Pump & Mechanical governor suitable for Bus segment.

The new ranges of vehicles powered by "H-series" 6ETI3K, 160 HP BS3 Engine.

We are pleased to announce that we are continuing with INLINE PUMP in our BS 3 range which is a Non Electronic System.

222" WB Viking ALPSV 4/186
210" WB Viking ALPSV 4/185
193" WB Viking ALPSV 4/184
154" WB Viking ALPSV 4/183
231" WB Cheetah ALPSV 4/190
210" WB Cheetah ALPSV 4/189
203" WB Cheetah ALPSV 4/188
176" WB Cheetah ALPSV 4/187
11M FESLF ALPSV 4/194
12 M Bus ALPSV 4/170

Attractive Features
  • Fuel efficient "H-Series" 6ETI3K, 160 HP BS3 Engine
  • Customer Friendly Inline FIP with Mechanical governor(Non Electronic)
  • Through bonnet CSO to reduce driver fatigue
  • Aesthetically pleasant new instrument cluster
  • Wider brake lining
  • Improved clutch lining
  • Push to fit connectors for air pipelines
Comprehensive AMC available for all models.
I remember someone telling me about the new instrument console.
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^^^^
1. What does the through bonnet CSO mean? Does it mean the gear selector over the bonnet?
2. The push to fit connectors for air-pipeline. Is it for the connecting the air-horn to the pipeline?

Request people to answer.
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1. What does the through bonnet CSO mean? Does it mean the gear selector over the bonnet?
CSO - Change Speed Operation. It means gear shift lever is through bonnet.
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2. The push to fit connectors for air-pipeline. Is it for the connecting the air-horn to the pipeline?
Push to fit connectors are a type of connectors which are used to connect various air pipes with their auxillaries. They have a major advantage as they completely eliminate the air leaks. This is really a good move as the conventional connectors have the problem of air leakage. It is to be noted that, if there is air leak and the system pressure drops below 6 bar you cannot move the vehicle and so you need to increase air pressure(by simply raising the engine rpm and there by to run the compressor) to make the vehicle move.
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Is the 4/186 superior to the 4/83?

Fuel efficient "H-Series" 6ETI3K, 160 HP BS3 Engine
Customer Friendly Inline FIP with Mechanical governor(Non Electronic)
Inline FIP is always user friendly

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Through bonnet CSO to reduce driver fatigue
Naturally driver fatigue will be reduced.

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Aesthetically pleasant new instrument cluster
No value addition as any way SMK will be replacing it unless you insist and save cost in that.

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Wider brake lining
Good! It will add value

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Improved clutch lining
Same as above

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Push to fit connectors for air pipelines
I have already explained in previous post.
But from my view 4/83 is not too far away apart from push to fit connectors.
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what is this 4/XXX business in the nomenclature of those new AL chassis?
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Default Tata Hispano rear engined bus is officially launched

Hey Guys

The rear engined Tata Hispano (operated by Neeta travels and SRS) is now officially available from Tata Motors. Read this news piece a couple of days in Hindu Business line. Tried hard to get some more info, but the websites did not have any info. Neither did the TML site have the Businessline update in their 'Media Section'. Pls share, if you guys have some info on this.
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