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Old 9th May 2011, 20:20   #421
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I think the values are correct. But I think the confusion arises from the fact that Tata uses Low floor only on the ones which are at a 400mm or less height. For the rest it uses semi low floor terminology.
Yeah, that's probably why I was expecting a true low floor on the AL. I've only been on the Marcopolo's and Volvo's. But isn't it better to just get ULF's in the case of KeSRTC?
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Low Floor is single step entry. RE buses are usually Low Floors - I think the entry is 650mm. ULE is 400mm, while SLF is 890/900mm. (Figures might be inaccurate - entirely from a vague memory).
The figures are right to an extent! The exact figures for ALL is given below
ULE(E+0) - 390(360 after kneeling)
LF(E+1) - 635
SLF(E+2)-860
Standard (E+3) -1050
Anyway this will vary upto +/-10 mm
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I think what Binai was talking about were the values specified in the Bus Code rather than the actual floor height values.

But thanks anyway for providing the actual values.
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The figures are right to an extent! The exact figures for ALL is given below
ULE(E+0) - 390(360 after kneeling)
LF(E+1) - 635
SLF(E+2)-860
Standard (E+3) -1050
Anyway this will vary upto +/-10 mm
Thanks Ashley. These are measured from ground to the bottom of first step. is that right?

Also is this height measured under loaded or unloaded condition ?
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Its the height from the ground to the floor of the front part, and not the first step. I dont think I would be able to climb if the 1st step were at 1050mm, which will be almost 2/3rd of my total height.

Also most modern city buses are offered with air suspension, which are self leveling. Thus the difference in height in laden to unladen condition is not very high.

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Thanks Ashley. These are measured from ground to the bottom of first step. is that right?
Also is this height measured under loaded or unloaded condition ?
Yes, they are measured from the ground to first step. Of course they are in the unladen condition only!
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Yes, they are measured from the ground to first step. Of course they are in the unladen condition only!
Are you sure?? 1050 mm is 3.44 feet! Most Indians are between 4~6 feet.. so imagine jumping their own height! It is the "Floor" height, not the "step" height. You yourself mentioned Standard (E+3) = 1050mm. The lowest step is usually around 400mm or so from the ground. (According to AIS:052, it shouldn't be more than 380mm from ground).
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Are you sure?? 1050 mm is 3.44 feet! Most Indians are between 4~6 feet.. so imagine jumping their own height! It is the "Floor" height, not the "step" height. You yourself mentioned Standard (E+3) = 1050mm. The lowest step is usually around 400mm or so from the ground. (According to AIS:052, it shouldn't be more than 380mm from ground).
What I have mentioned is the height of the bus floor from ground.
The step will be 390+220+220+220=1050mm
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TATA just launched the new look TATA 1618 series here. It looks much better than the existing ones. Comes with Cummins 180 HP engines and bigger 11R22.5 radial tyres.
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This is not a new look at all. This is an ACGL design that has been around for quite some time, around a year at least. MSRTC has a few buses of this design. Quite a few export buses are now of this design, including the one pictured above, which if you see is an LHD model.

As for 11R22.5 tyres they too have been offered as optional for quite some time now, though very few actually opt for it. Even those who do go in for the radials use the 10R20 size and not the 11R22.5
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TATA just launched the new look TATA 1618 series here. It looks much better than the existing ones. Comes with Cummins 180 HP engines and bigger 11R22.5 radial tyres.
I didn't such a model was available like julupani says. Pretty clean design nevertheless.
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I mentioned - The new look - strictly from Doha market point of view. Since this is an international market , we interact with lot of other manufacturers as well. Always wonder why the Fit and Finish of TATA is very poor , even in comparison with Ashok Leyland ! The price of Leyland , Daewoo and some chinese brands are all on par with TATA. They all stand head and shoulder above TATA. This new introduction looks like a small step towards the right direction.
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Its the height from the ground to the floor of the front part, and not the first step. I dont think I would be able to climb if the 1st step were at 1050mm, which will be almost 2/3rd of my total height.
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Yes, they are measured from the ground to first step. Of course they are in the unladen condition only!
Guys, please clarify. Is this floor to ground or first step to ground?
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@sam

This design from ACGL has existed for export markets too for quite a long time. Maybe only now has anybody from Doha placed an order and thus you see these in Doha. I remember about a thousand odd school buses in this design were exported sometime in September or October last year to Saudi Arabia.

As for the quality ACGL did not have a very good name for quality, and only since the last year or two has the quality started improving.

@Mpower

Ashley has already clarified that the height is that of the floor and not the first step.

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@julupani

May be true. It was never available in Doha market. There is no such thing is booking a specific model. They have just one a/c model and one non a/c model. In addition ABS option is available. I know Saudi Arabia is a huge market. They deal in hundreds when we talk about tens. End of the day it is a new product in this market whatever way you look at it.
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