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Old 2nd March 2012, 10:13   #841
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@Sajan, interesting possibility. Next you see it, try to tail it & see it is emitting any smoke from exhaust.
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More City Buses for India by Benz.

Mercedes-Benz launches City bus in India - Overdrive Magazine -
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Tata Motors launches luxury city bus Divo

Business Line : Companies News : Tata Motors enters super-luxury bus market with Divo

I'm a bit skeptical about it's success compared to the Volvo. Since this is not a mass-segment one, Tata trying to undercut Volvo in pricing (and thus try to flaunt the VFM tag) might not produce the necessary results.

Note that is a luxury intercity segment and the target end-customers will be those who specifically take the 'Volvo' (even the MB could not make decent inroads yet) for various factors like comfort, safety, speed, smooth jerk-free ride which ensures good night sleep, etc.. These end-customers are well-aware of the premium charged by the operators. How many of you planning to travel by Volvo will opt for a similar Tata vehicle if the ticket cost is 10-15% less ?

Case to point are the Marcopolo buses of the BMTC (though not exact an interc-city one like the Divo). More than their number of buses, they were known for their engine groan under strain and thick soot they leave behind. Don't think their numbers in BMTC are increasing compared to the BMTC city Volvo buses.
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More than their number of buses, they were known for their engine groan under strain and thick soot they leave behind. Don't think their numbers in BMTC are increasing compared to the BMTC city Volvo buses.
There are 98 AC Marcopolos, compared to about 450-odd Volvo B7RLEs. Another 100 Volvos have been ordered. They have also ordered for 200 Corona Skypaks - the deliveries have commenced for the same.
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Case to point are the Marcopolo buses of the BMTC (though not exact an interc-city one like the Divo). More than their number of buses, they were known for their engine groan under strain and thick soot they leave behind. Don't think their numbers in BMTC are increasing compared to the BMTC city Volvo buses.

Echo your thoughts here... Even the old blue and white buses and the Pushpaks fare better on the roads compared to the AC Marco Polos. And the ride quality is nothing compared to the Volvos. Lot of vibration, engine groan and noise are felt inside the cabin; windows and plastic panels vibrate and shake at every instance and the bus when doing 20-30 kmph makes enough noise as an F1 car....

Tata should stick to what they are good at - making trucks, Indicas and Nanos instead of competing in Volvo's territory ! Isuzus are far better than the Tatas...

And I know of people who have travelled in Tata's AC Hispano buses from Chennai - Blr (SRS operated a few of those) and did not have any good tales to narrate !
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While I agree the current Tata luxury buses are nowhere near the Volvos, I don't see why their new products can't improve and come close. The Divo looks a promising start. Lets see how it fares.

Also, looks like TaMo is entering this category for a long innings. They also have a plan to launch Multi Axle buses, the one shown at the Auto Expo.

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To further expand the super luxury bus range, Tata Motors is also planning to launch a multiaxle super luxury coach by fiscal 2014. The company showcased the product during the Auto Expo in Delhi in January this year.
source - With cheaper Divo, TaMo aims at Volvo - Money - DNA

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Echo your thoughts here... Even the old blue and white buses and the Pushpaks fare better on the roads compared to the AC Marco Polos. And the ride quality is nothing compared to the Volvos. Lot of vibration, engine groan and noise are felt inside the cabin; windows and plastic panels vibrate and shake at every instance and the bus when doing 20-30 kmph makes enough noise as an F1 car...
You've summed it up perfectly. If you want a 'smoked' shirt/trousers, stay behind a TM RE AC bus. You'll be 'smoked' royally within seconds, and still overtake the bus comfortably.

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And I know of people who have travelled in Tata's AC Hispano buses from Chennai - Blr (SRS operated a few of those) and did not have any good tales to narrate !
I am one such victim. Operator - SRS Travels. At Rs.500 (that's what I paid, IIRC, 2 years ago) for an AC semi-sleeper that takes you to Chennai by 5 o'clock despite a 11 o'clock departure, it MIGHT look VFM. But the seats and the ride quality are nowhere near to acceptable levels. Heck, I ended up with a severe back pain after that trip!
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Note the similarities in their registration numbers
Registration number for Konferenz is - NL 05 B 0853
Registration number for Star Craft is - NL 05 B 0854
I have a query regarding these NL registered vehicles.
According to wikipedia, NL series belongs to Nagaland RTOs. I have seen quite a few Heavy Duty trucks/trailers bearing these NL plates. So what is the deal here? Are these vehicles registered in Nagaland and used elsewhere? if yes, then why?
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Spotted this Volvo yesterday. Sported one small sign on side & rear saying "Test Vehicle". And completely blanked out, as can be seen in the pic.

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I too spotted this vehicle standing in front of the HP Petrol bunk next to Tin Factory on the Old Madras road on Tuesday! Yes, was neatly wrapped in white with a small 'Test Vehicle' board in the front!
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I have a query regarding these NL registered vehicles.
According to wikipedia, NL series belongs to Nagaland RTOs. I have seen quite a few Heavy Duty trucks/trailers bearing these NL plates. So what is the deal here? Are these vehicles registered in Nagaland and used elsewhere? if yes, then why?
NL has relatively less tax structure compared to other states and they are flexible in visual inspection of the vehicle also - they dont see mostly.
So tractors are prefered to get registered there.

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they are flexible in visual inspection of the vehicle also - they dont see mostly.
That explains why most of these huge trucks, which you rarely see on the road, are NL registered.

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That explains why most of these huge trucks, which you rarely see on the road, are NL registered.
Omni bus operators like ShamaSardar who runs buses in Madurai-Chennai route has buses registered in NL.
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Omni bus operators like ShamaSardar who runs buses in Madurai-Chennai route has buses registered in NL.
Don't they face any kind of issues by their respective State RTOs, running these buses with NL plates or some greasing is done to the authorities?
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Don't they face any kind of issues by their respective State RTOs, running these buses with NL plates or some greasing is done to the authorities?
NL registered Trucks/buses cannot run in Kerala - Kerala RTO guys are very strict about NL registered vehicles, since their checks found that 90% of the NL registrations are bogus (among vehicles checked in Kerala). Now such trucks have become really rare in Kerala.
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Saw few white new CORONA AC buses in Ecity. Looks good! much better than those TATA AC buses.
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