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Old 14th January 2015, 13:21   #1051
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The recently launched Volvo bus services in Hyderabad are running in losses due to high fares

Source link and full article: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...w/45878836.cms

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HYDERABAD: Less than two months after being launched amidst much fanfare, KCR's ambitious metro luxury bus project seems to have fallen flat. According to official data, the 80 air-conditioned buses that hit the city streets last November, are already struggling to find takers, its 'hi-tech' features notwithstanding. So much so that the occupancy rate on three of the four routes they ply on is below 35%, whereas RTC officials have set a minimum target of 73%.

"These buses are too expensive. A minimum fare of Rs 15 and an additional Rs 5 for every two kilometers is not an economically viable option for daily passengers," reasoned Sai Krishna, who frequently commutes between Secunderabad and Hi Tec City. The tickets for these buses, which ply on four routes - Dilsukhnagar-Patancheru (218D), Uppal-Waverock (113 M/W), Koti-Patancheru (222) and ECIL-Waverock (17H/10W) - are priced between Rs 15 and Rs 115.

So, while a passenger travelling from ECIL to Waverock has to cough up Rs 115 if he takes the metro luxury bus ride, the same journey will cost him about Rs 50 if he takes an ordinary bus instead. There is also the option of a direct metro bus from ECIL to Kondapur (route 147), which is very popular among commuters and is way cheaper than the luxury version that boast of having GPS tracking mechanism.

Another reason for the commuters shying away from using these luxury buses is lack of provision for seasonal passes. The only option that comes remotely close to a pass is a 'combo ticket' that can be availed by commuters with a normal pass. This brings the one-way ticket rate, to any destination within city limits, down to Rs 35. But that too isn't very cheap, complain passengers, who would rather opt for shared cabs plying towards Hi Tec City.

"Cab drivers usually oblige to ferry commuters from Secunderabad to Hi Tec City for Rs 15-30. Though the cabs are not regular as they are hired full-time by companies, there's nothing like it if you manage to get one," said Khalid Ahmed, a student.

Not surprisingly then, RTC officials are faced with poor footfall on these otherwise pretty pink and white public vehicles. "Each of these buses runs on a cost of Rs 62 per kilometre. If we calculate the amount spent on them, the occupancy rate requires to touch 73% to break even," said Vijayalakshmi, an RTC official, confessing that this fleet is nowhere close to that figure yet.

"The occupancy on an average is between 30% and 35%. The only route that is showing some promise is the Dilsukhnagar-Patancheru route that has occupancy of about 65%," Vijayalakshmi added.
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Old 16th January 2015, 15:06   #1052
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A couple of days ago, got this pathetic Cerita (commonly known as Kinglong) bus of BEST. Bus number was 1150, route AS-524 from Borivali To Vashi. While starting from Borivali, it was all fine. The acceleration was like any other Cerita bus - lethargic. Air conditioner had no effect at all. As we reached Dindoshi, things started going from bad to worse. The bus climbed up the Dindoshi flyover at walking speeds. I called up the depot and gave them an earful for turning out such a bus on the roads.

While turning onto JVLR from Western express highway, there is a slope. It is here that things crossed the limit. The bus almost came to a dead halt while turning – It simply did not have any grunt to go any further. Speed dropped below 1 kmph. I immediately took out my phone to record the whole scene, but by that time we gained some speed. Here is the video I shot:



You can clearly make out driver switching the AC off & on in attempt to gain some speed. Finally, near SEEPZ we persuaded the driver & conductor to shift all passengers to another bus.

It is a real shame on BEST that they still continue to use these buses. Municipal transport services of smaller cities in Maharashtra too are getting Volvos into their fleet – Navi Mumbai, Thane, Mira-Bhayander, Kalyan-Dombivali, Solapur to name a few. But the capital of the state & country’s financial capital gets these underpowered rattleboxes. What an irony. In 5 years, even the bodies of Ceritas have deteriorated rapidly.
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After Mumbai's B.E.S.T, Navi Mumbai's N.M.M.T, Thane'e T.M.T , Kalyan Dombivali Municipal Transport i.e. K.D.M.T after a long hiatus got 10 Volvo 8400 AC city buses inducted into its fleet. The buses were inaugurated with much fanfare on 22nd January 2015.
Services to Vashi -Domibivali were launched on 1st February 2015 & it seems was not an auspicious day for them as their first bus met with an accident at Vashi Bus Depot .
The Volvo going towards Dombivali , brushed hard against an B.E.S.T bus which had just arrived at the depot .
No injuries of any kinds were reported to passengers present in both buses .
However an unfortunate accident on the very first service trip , not the usual "Starting with a Bang" scenario K.D.M.T would had liked.

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The Kerala SRTC had placed an order for a little over a hundred Eicher bus chassis last year. The first Eicher bus rolled out of the Central Workshop, Tvm last day. It's after more than a decade that Eicher has supplied chassis to the KSRTC.

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The Kerala SRTC had placed an order for a little over a hundred Eicher bus chassis last year. The first Eicher bus rolled out of the Central Workshop, Tvm last day. It's after more than a decade that Eicher has supplied chassis to the KSRTC.
The bus hasn't rolled out yet, to be correct. The initial order is only for 20 buses, which would be on a trial period for 1 year, following which Eicher would receive order for the remaining 115 (if the trial is successful).

This is the FIRST time Eicher is supplying a "Chassis" to KSRTC - the last time it were the fully built Eicher Skyline Minibus (which bombed big time due to maintenance issues).

Initial Impressions: The Mechanical Engineer incharge of Central Works was all praises for the chassis - he says the overall quality of the chassis is far ahead of the two CV Majors. He now awaits its performace on the road.
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This is the FIRST time Eicher is supplying a "Chassis" to KSRTC - the last time it were the fully built Eicher Skyline Minibus (which bombed big time due to maintenance issues).
I thought there were a couple of full length buses from Eicher, that started off as FPs in the orange and white livery. Or am I mistaken?

Binai, isn't the new chassis also powered by a 4-cyl 5L engine, or have they introduced a 6-cyl one?
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I thought there were a couple of full length buses from Eicher, that started off as FPs in the orange and white livery. Or am I mistaken?

Binai, isn't the new chassis also powered by a 4-cyl 5L engine, or have they introduced a 6-cyl one?
That was a trial bus, which KSRTC never ran commercially. It was given to Kerala Police (IIRC).

Its a 6 cylinder engine producing a decent 142hp (Or 132?). Torque is on the lower side but general reports from APSRTC (who operate a large number of Eicher buses) is fairly positive.
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That was a trial bus, which KSRTC never ran commercially. It was given to Kerala Police (IIRC).
Thanks for clarifying that

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Its a 6 cylinder engine producing a decent 142hp (Or 132?). Torque is on the lower side but general reports from APSRTC (who operate a large number of Eicher buses) is fairly positive.
It's 108kW, so 142hp sounds about right. Torque is 460Nm according to the product spec, lower than the 550Nm offered by the comparable Leyland model. If they have the gearing right, yea, then it'll be able to perform well.

Binai, do you have any idea on the non-AC LF buses going to be purchased under JnNURM-2, by KURTC (AC LF would be Volvo 8400LE, right?)? I read somewhere that TMML would be supplying some buses too. Is the KURTC going ahead with a single supplier?
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Binai, do you have any idea on the non-AC LF buses going to be purchased under JnNURM-2, by KURTC (AC LF would be Volvo 8400LE, right?)? I read somewhere that TMML would be supplying some buses too. Is the KURTC going ahead with a single supplier?
Non-AC LF will be 193 Ashok Leyland FE SLF and 97 TATA Marcopolo 1618 FE SLF. For the AC bus tender, only Volvo responded, and the order for the entire lot of 110 buses were given to Volvo - of which 50 has already been delivered.

Leyland would reportedly be based on the new JanBus design, and would have Leymatic (AMT) - as per hear-say. AFAIK, the prototype has been approved by KURTC and delivery would commence shortly.
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An old photo of Kerala's KSRTC Fast passenger. These body type was common in the end of 1980's. KSRTC was testing Aluminium body during that time? It is Thrissur bus stand?
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An old photo of Kerala's KSRTC Fast passenger. These body type was common in the end of 1980's. KSRTC was testing Aluminium body during that time? It is Thrissur bus stand?
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I don't think the body was made of Aluminium sheets. IIRC, there were a few buses with the body built by TNSTC (or their older versions) workshops. This one looks like one from that batch. The interiors were also different in those buses, as they used sun-mica sheets for the ceiling, unlike sheet metal used by KSRTC's workshops.

The bus stand looks like TSR.
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An old photo of Kerala's KSRTC Fast passenger. These body type was common in the end of 1980's.
Is this based on Cheetah Chassis? The bus does not have any front overhang at all.
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Is this based on Cheetah Chassis? The bus does not have any front overhang at all.
Yes, they are based on Cheetah Chassis.
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The bus hasn't rolled out yet, to be correct. The initial order is only for 20 buses, which would be on a trial period for 1 year, following which Eicher would receive order for the remaining 115 (if the trial is successful).

This is the FIRST time Eicher is supplying a "Chassis" to KSRTC - the last time it were the fully built Eicher Skyline Minibus (which bombed big time due to maintenance issues).

Initial Impressions: The Mechanical Engineer incharge of Central Works was all praises for the chassis - he says the overall quality of the chassis is far ahead of the two CV Majors. He now awaits its performace on the road.
Why does the driver console etc still look like they are stuck in the 80s? I can imagine not putting in Volvo level stuff, but some level of quality won't hurt, no?

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Why does the driver console etc still look like they are stuck in the 80s? I can imagine not putting in Volvo level stuff, but some level of quality won't hurt, no?
When the Marcopolo AC buses didn't get anything better though they were trying to pit it against the Volvo, what can you expect of the lower variants? At least a nice console without random gaps between panels will make it look a lot better.

Quality always comes with price. Even very old Volvo buses have perfectly working gauges and except for a little fade in the backlight, everything else was perfect. I would be surprised if the same can be said about other buses.
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