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Old 20th April 2010, 17:27   #136
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In pradipk's picture above, what material are those red blocks that the ship is on?

And how on earth is the ship held upright? I cant seem to see any structure or ropes/cables etc


Also - the Bulbous bow at the front -- is it solid steel through and through ??

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Old 20th April 2010, 20:01   #137
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The ship had called a Russian port in Bering sea and the entire ship was covered with ice.
Congratulations on your new acquire! I wish you a great success!

btw, is this Bering sea the same one where the crabs are found?? There is a show called "The Deadliest Catch" on Discovery channel which shows the crab hunting season on the Bering sea.
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Old 20th April 2010, 21:42   #138
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In pradipk's picture above, what material are those red blocks that the ship is on?

And how on earth is the ship held upright? I cant seem to see any structure or ropes/cables etc


Also - the Bulbous bow at the front -- is it solid steel through and through ??
I don't know what those red blocks are, but have seen some similar sort of thing at Alang. Now I am also keen on knowing what it is.

Also, Ship will be upright just like that, it doesn't need any support. It's only required once considerable portion of it is broken (I am saying from what I have seen in Ship breaking yard).
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Old 20th April 2010, 21:58   #139
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In pradipk's picture above, what material are those red blocks that the ship is on?

And how on earth is the ship held upright? I cant seem to see any structure or ropes/cables etc


Also - the Bulbous bow at the front -- is it solid steel through and through ??

Rehaan,

Those blocks are called keel blocks. The ship will resting on those blocks in the dock. The entire weight of the ship is transferred to the ground through those blocks. If the ship is having a protruded portion, which is too high for a keel block, it'll be supported using big wooden logs or small steel structures(cubical) which will be stacked one above another to get the required height.

Rehaan, am attaching a pic of our building dock for more clear look of keel block.
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Vijay,

Real purpose for bulbous bow is to reduce the drag coeff of ship and thus increase speed and fuel efficiency. Haven't heard of them used for ice breaking.

Bulbous bow

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wow , planes and now ships we have it all here. @VP thanks a ton for taking time and posting about your ships and congrats on the 6th possession, went through the thread twice and like the rest of us am hooked to it too. Talking about pirates don't you have any kind of security guys with guns on the ship to scare away those pirates or is it not allowed ? On an average how many crew members will be there in a ship ? Do you always travel or you do it only if your presence is necessary ?
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Rehaan,
Those blocks are called keel blocks. The ship will resting on those blocks in the dock. The entire weight of the ship is transferred to the ground through those blocks. If the ship is having a protruded portion, which is too high for a keel block, it'll be supported using big wooden logs or small steel structures(cubical) which will be stacked one above another to get the required height.

Rehaan, am attaching a pic of our building dock for more clear look of keel block.
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Vijay,

Real purpose for bulbous bow is to reduce the drag coeff of ship and thus increase speed and fuel efficiency. Haven't heard of them used for ice breaking.

Bulbous bow
Thanks Vaisakhr, apprecaite your efforts. I'm myself a Master & duly understand the function of bulbous bow. That's why I mentioned that it helps and not that it's function is to cut ice.
I noted that you have mentioned 'OUR BUILDING DOCK". Can you elaborate on that please. We have two ships upcoming for 5 yearly DD & it would be beneficial if you can arrange something. As of now our ships head to China for DD jobs. Where are your docks located?

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wow , planes and now ships we have it all here. @VP thanks a ton for taking time and posting about your ships and congrats on the 6th possession, went through the thread twice and like the rest of us am hooked to it too. Talking about pirates don't you have any kind of security guys with guns on the ship to scare away those pirates or is it not allowed ? On an average how many crew members will be there in a ship ? Do you always travel or you do it only if your presence is necessary ?
Hi Guru, Thanks for your wishes. The 6th ship was never on our radar. It came in for 'kind-of' settling the bills. No we do not have any armed people onboard our ships or for the matter on any merchant ships. Unless they are carrying military cargo or of immense value. As of now UN is providing 2-3 naval ships for escorting designated convoys between Red sea & Indian ocean.
I did travel like maniac between Jan-March 2010 (I need to thank Bhpian Sam Kapasi here). This was the time I was trying my best to grow my fleet. As you may have read that I had a small accident & since then have been grounded by my colleagues. Yes I still travel but mostly in & around Europe.

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Congratulations on your new acquire! I wish you a great success!
btw, is this Bering sea the same one where the crabs are found?? There is a show called "The Deadliest Catch" on Discovery channel which shows the crab hunting season on the Bering sea.
Yes whitesquall, its the same sea. Alaska on other side in the nearest US state. You know its fun to cross Intl dateline, either you get an additional day or you jump one full day, for example 26th straight after 24th April.

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OMG. How did I ever miss this thread. In fact I came to it once but then lost it. Shoot this is huge. A Shipowner on Team BHP.
Dear Vijay Sir, How do you find time to come on Team BHP? I can relate to kind of work hours you must be maintaining i.e. if you are operating from one country.
I am a marine surveyor & closely associated with shipping work.
Ok now I need to re-read your thread once again. Goosebumps are all over me.
Hi Sonu, Thanks for your enthusiasm & proposal. As for survey works your company does not represent our P&I clubs. You will be surprised to know that we had met at CMM spectrum this January. You were busy with your ex-colleagues so we just had hand-shakes & your boss took my card. That's when he did discuss business with me.

And GENTLEMEN, Please dont call me 'SIR'. We all are brothers here.

With warm regards,
Vijay

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Old 21st April 2010, 20:57   #142
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I noted that you have mentioned 'OUR BUILDING DOCK". Can you elaborate on that please. We have two ships upcoming for 5 yearly DD & it would be beneficial if you can arrange something. As of now our ships head to China for DD jobs. Where are your docks located?
I mean the dock of the shipyard in which am working as a trainee. As it is govt company we used to say 'our dock', 'our ship' etc.

I am working in Cochin Shipyard Ltd.
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And GENTLEMEN, Please dont call me 'SIR'. We all are brothers here.

With warm regards,
Vijay
Shows the humbleness of a great man of your stature!! We are floored!

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Old 22nd April 2010, 22:42   #144
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@vijaypalsingh: I got a request. Could you write more on the piracy problem as all we hear is from the papers. I for one would love to hear more from an owners perspective as i heard that this is a very lucrative racket and could be done by any mafia with the support of the pirates.

PS: Hope you have a speedy recovery.
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Old 23rd April 2010, 21:47   #145
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I mean the dock of the shipyard in which am working as a trainee. As it is govt company we used to say 'our dock', 'our ship' etc.

I am working in Cochin Shipyard Ltd.
Dear Vaisakhr, So you are a naval architect!?! Great.

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@vijaypalsingh: I got a request. Could you write more on the piracy problem as all we hear is from the papers. I for one would love to hear more from an owners perspective as i heard that this is a very lucrative racket and could be done by any mafia with the support of the pirates.

PS: Hope you have a speedy recovery.
Dear Maddy, Its very difficult to give my perspective on piracy so I suggest you to read (www.tradewinds.no) on regular basis for better idea. To summarise Piracy was prominenetly high in Malaca straits & at the horn of Brazil from ages.
As for Somalia, they realised that their country is located at a very strategic location and major shipping business was routed right through their backyard and so they took to piracy. But the main question is WHY?
Honestly I would say that for 15 years no one paid any attention to sufferings of Somalians except for reading and then forwarding emails showing their sufferings. Had it been an oil-rich country like Kuwait or Iraq, the entire world or so called world powers would have made it their base. You must have got the idea of what I want to say.
When I was sailing, I have been to Somalia and I have seen their sufferings on first hand basis. I have seen families NOT having enough money to provide even burials to their dead ones. So they had dug a huge pit & whenever someone died they just threw the body in the pit & put enough soil to just cover the body. Those were the days of Polaroid cameras & I do have some horrible photos back home in India. There are many such incidents beacuse I was on a ship that regularly brought UN food supplies to Somalia, Angola & once to Iraq too.

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Dear Vaisakhr, So you are a naval architect!?! Great.
No, am just a mechanical engr. I used to work in ships all day long. So i got used to ship terminology and things like that.
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Vijay, it is moving to read your humane analysis and observations on Somalia, etc. Thanks for making these points.

(Oh, and I still want a test drive... but I guess that, as I have no marine qualification, the answer has to be "no"! )

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Just saw the plane. AWESOME. I've flown a few in the Microsoft Flight Simulator but there ain't anything like the real thing, right ? Puh-lease keep coming with more of birdie pics if you have'em... Thanks for the treat.
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Amazing thread and Im simply hooked.
A ship is something that most of dont even see. And here you've posted quite a bit about shipping too. Love all the pics and the entire discussion too.

The last time i boarded a ship was many years ago. A naval ship, thanks to an uncle. That was one wonderful experience.
My last experience was on a BOAT. One with a capacity of 140 overloaded to almost 500 humans.
Nevertheless, the joy of sailing is immense and an experience in itself. Thanks for sharing this whole episode. Vijay, hope you buy six more ships soon, so there's more for us too see and read.

Really enjoying this.

Thanks n cheers,

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Vijay, it is moving to read your humane analysis and observations on Somalia, etc. Thanks for making these points.
(Oh, and I still want a test drive... but I guess that, as I have no marine qualification, the answer has to be "no"! )
Hello T.E.G.: Aidni Katrina is expected to come to Mumbai & later to Vizag around end May. Well I cannot promise a ride on ship but a visit may not be that difficult. I'll see what we can arrange for you. How far is Vizag from Chennai?

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Just saw the plane. AWESOME. I've flown a few in the Microsoft Flight Simulator but there ain't anything like the real thing, right ? Puh-lease keep coming with more of birdie pics if you have'em... Thanks for the treat.
Hello Anku: These planes are with some aviation training institute in India. I have posted all possible pictures that I had taken there. Since this was just a casual visit with one of my friend, I'll not be able to put more 'birdie' pics. FYI one of my partners owns a Learjet 45XR here in Oslo but pics are PROHIBITED inside airspace. We use this plane for urgent travels within Europe. It infact works out more expensive & is too cramped for my taste.
And since I have met Adam Khoo, a Singapore national & multi-millionaire at the age of 25, I prefer flying Economy class. Search for him on Google & you'll be surprised by his views. Simply down to earth & awesome.

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Amazing thread and Im simply hooked.
A ship is something that most of dont even see. And here you've posted quite a bit about shipping too. Love all the pics and the entire discussion too.
The last time i boarded a ship was many years ago. A naval ship, thanks to an uncle. That was one wonderful experience.
My last experience was on a BOAT. One with a capacity of 140 overloaded to almost 500 humans.
Nevertheless, the joy of sailing is immense and an experience in itself. Thanks for sharing this whole episode. Vijay, hope you buy six more ships soon, so there's more for us too see and read.
Really enjoying this.
Thanks n cheers,
Jay
Hello Jay: Thanks for your wishes. I have built the fleet to six but my actual target was five. The sixth one came as some kind of settlement. You must have read about it in the thread. We are trying to keep our ships in business now. Thanks to financial upgraph, the year ahead looks good.
Please do tell us more about your BOAT experience. 500 persons on 140 persons capacity boat.

With warm regards to all,
Vijay
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