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As part of the company’s strategy to enhance the scope of its defence business right up to frontline combat vehicles, Tata Motors offers an extensive portfolio of combat vehicles, troop carriers, tactical vehicles, logistics vehicles and equipments. The launch of these combat and tactical vehicles will allow Tata Motors to leverage the entire defence mobility spectrum.

Vehicle specification for the Tata 4X4 Mine Protected Vehicle:


The Tata Mine Protected Vehicle: The Tata Mine Protected Vehicle is based on modular flexibility and integrates V shaped hull blast protection technology, ideally suited for counter-insurgency operations. The two roof-top hatches for observation, 9 firing ports and a 360-degree roof mounted rotating turret for an LMG/HMG weapon ensures maximum fire power. Its combat survivability comes from all round NIJ Level 3 BP protection and customer/mission specific underbelly blast protection.

The air-conditioned crew cabin also renders itself to multiple configurations for different combat roles, like a command post, emergency evacuation ambulance or a troop carrier. Crew and seating layouts from 8 to 12 troops can meet these varied operational requirements.

The 245 PS diesel engine generates a top speed of 100 kmph and a gradeability of 60%. The 860 mm ground clearance and fordability of 1000 mm ensures mobility even in the toughest terrain. Space for appropriate communication equipment and ADNAV system makes it operational even at night and in adverse weather conditions.

Besides the Army, Tata Motors will also offer the vehicle to paramilitary and police forces. The company has the ability to mobilise adequate manufacturing capacity, and will deploy its dealer/service network across the country for maintenance and service.

Mobility:
• Maximum speed of 100 kmph
• Gradeability is 60%
• High under-hull ground clearance
• Fordability of upto 1000 mm
• Power to weight ratio - 20 Hp / Ton

Lethality:
• 9 firing ports inside bullet proof glasses, 4 each on side wall & 1 in rear
• 360 degree rotating turret on roof for LMG & HMG

Protection & Survivability:
• All-round NIJ Level III BP Protection
• Side blast protection
• Mine protection under hull / under wheels
• Explosive-suppressant material in fuel tank
• All major components like fuel tank, steering gear box, air tanks, transfer case, etc are housed inside hull
• Three doors for faster and easier exit in emergency
• Side wall-mounted seats for blast protection improvement with 4-point harness
• Operating temperature range: -20 degrees to + 55 degrees
• Twin AC for better comfort
• All tyres fitted with Run Flat systems
• Optional- ADNAV system for Inertial navigation/ Global Positioning System to provide position, heading and orientation data with night vision capability

Seating Layout:
• Can accommodate a driver & commander in front + 8 in rear seat
• Also offers and option of accommodating a Driver & a Co-driver +10
• An option of all front facing seats

Maintainability:
• Power Pack concept for ease of maintenance
• Easy to maintain indigenous Tata Aggregates
• Low life cycle cost due to cost-effective indigenous spares
• Wide Tata network ensures maximum up time
• Largest network of authorized dealers and service stations in the country
• Easy availability of spare parts

Variants & Options:
• Troop carrier
• Command post
• Battlefield ambulance
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Tata 8x8 Weapon platform:

The Tata 8x8, is a versatile high mobility platform, capable of being configured to a host of Military applications like Electronic warfare, Bridge Laying, Tank Transporter, Recovery , Mobile Specialist Workshops, Hook Loader and Logistics Vehicle when fitted with mounted Material Handling Crane.

Tata 8x8 Weapon Platform: The company is also displaying the Tata 8x8, a unique and versatile high mobility platform, capable of being configured to a host of military applications like missile/artillery and air defence weapons, surveillance equipment, communications and electronics warfare. It is already becoming the platform of choice to various weapon / missile system integrators in the role of a cost effective launcher, carrier, radar pedestal, generator van and command post.

Its 380/420 PS engine generates a speed of over 80 kmph and gradeability of up to 60%. With a fordability of 1200 mm, trench crossing ability of 2 metres, ground clearance of 400 mm, a compensating bogey suspension, wide wheel tracks it can operate under severe terrain conditions. The tiltable military cabin, compatible to up-armouring and NBC protection on demand, and traditional chassis frame ensures free accessibility to all major aggregates and lends itself to easy maintainability. The wide cabin windscreens ensure good all-around visibility.

Vehicle specification for the Tata 8X8 High Mobility Vehicle

Mobility:
• Maximum speed of 84 kmph
• Gradeability of 30%
• Ground clearance 400 mm
• Fordability 1200 mm
• Trench-crossing capability 2000 mm

Lethality
• Ideal platform for mounting rockets, Missiles and mounted artillery

Protection & Survivability
• Cabin ready for up-armouring
• Optional NBC protection in cabin
• Operating temperature range: -20 degree to + 55 degree
• Operating range - 800 kms
• Wider wheel-track for better stability
• ABS braking system

Seating Layout:
• Wide cabin with all-round visibility
• 2 sleeping berths behind the driver

Maintainability:
• Easy to maintain indigenous Tata aggregates
• Low life cycle cost due to cost effective indigenous spares
• Vehicle already under trial with DRDO
• Prompt after-sales support by trained company technicians across the country
• Easy availability of spare parts
• Easy accessibility to all major aggregates ensuring serviceability
• Missile & Rocket Launcher and Carrier Vehicles. Command Post & Mobile Workshop
• High Mobility Vehicle - with Hook Loader or Material Handling Crane
• Interchangeability of rear body facilitates combat, tactical and logistical needs to cater for variants
• 18 T payload

The Tata 8x8 is built from “commercially of the shelf” indigenous Tata aggregates which ensures lowest owning and operating costs due to easy available cost effective indigenous Tata spares that can be sourced through a wide network of Tata dealers and Authorized Service Stations spread across the country.
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Tata Light Specialist Vehicle (LSV):

Tata Light Specialist Vehicle (LSV): The LSV is a single platform to undertake diverse missions such as reconnaissance, counter-insurgency operations for special forces and even as an ambulance. It has an adaptive automatic transmission, 60% gradeability, 750 mm fordability, 300 mm vertical obstacle climbing ability, 45% approach angle, 45% departure angle, 250 mm ground clearance and a top speed of 100 kmph. The vehicle can operate in a temperature range of –20 degree to +55 degree Celsius.

Built to latest military standards, the Tata LSV's versatility enables it to perform on the major parameters of Mobility, Survivability, Stealth, Lethality, Transportability and Maintainability as per the demands of a modern military force.

Vehicle specification for the Tata 4x4 LSV Ambulance

Mobility:
• Maximum speed of 100 kmph
• Gradeability of 60%
• Power to weight ratio - 25 KW/ton
• Fordability of 750 mm
• Fully Automatic Transmission
• Ground clearance of 250 mm
• Step climbing 300 mm

Protection & Survivability:
• Cabin ready for up-armouring
• Optional NBC protection in cabin
• Operating temperature range: -20 degrees to + 55 degrees

• Wider wheel- track for better stability
• Anti-lock Braking System

Seating Layout: All saloon interior layouts with accommodation for 2 stretcher patients, or 1 stretcher and 4 sitting patients plus doctor

Maintainability:
• Proven, reliable and easy to maintain indigenous Tata aggregates
• Low life cycle cost due to cost effective indigenous spares
• Largest network of authorized dealers and service stations in the country
• Easy availability of spare parts.
• Base vehicle already tried out by Indian Army
• Common aggregates in variants for ease of inventory / logistics management
• Easy accessibility to all major aggregates ensuring serviceability

Additional Features:
• 40 L refrigerator
• AC and heater for saloon
• Electric exhaust fans in saloon
• Fold-down rear step with cushioned stool
• Sliding communication-window between saloon and driver compartment
• Full-width lockable rear doors
• Fluorescent interior lighting

Variants & Options: The Tata LSV can be adapted depending on the requirement, to offer any or all of the following:
• Light Multipurpose Reconnaissance Vehicle (LAM)
• Armed Reconnaissance Vehicle
• LSV with Protection for Counter Insurgency Operations
• Observation Post (OP) Party Vehicle
• Field Artillery Tractor (FAT) for Para Field Artillery Regiments
• Recce Vehicle for Gun Position Officer (GPO) for Artillery Regiments
• Recce, Surveillance & Ghatak Platoon Vehicle for Infantry
• Engineering Reconnaissance Vehicle
• Ambulance: The LSV Ambulance version can accommodate 2 stretcher cases or one stretcher case and four sitting patients along with a doctor.
• Low Level Lightweight Radar for Air Defence Artillery
• LSV-based Light Radio Vehicle/Communication Rover for Signals

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Other Vehicles, including armoured Safari & Sumo:

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Tata 4X4 LPA 713 Light Armoured Troop Carrier (LATC):


Tata Light Armoured Troop Carrier (LATC): The LATC is designed for movement of troops for counter insurgency operation, with protection against small arm fire, floor protected against hand grenade blasts, and fuel tank bolstered with explosive suppressant material.

Mobility:
• Maximum speed of 105 kmph
• Gradeability of 72%
• Fordability of 600 mm
• Step climbing 500 mm
• Differential lock
• Automatic transmission optional

Lethality: 8 firing ports and weapon-mount on Cupola ring

Protection & Survivability:
• All round NIJ Level III BP Protection
• Side-blast protection
• Underbelly protection against H- 36 hand grenades
• Explosive-suppressant material in fuel tank
• Three doors for faster and easier exit in emergency
• Roof suspended seats with seat belts for blast protection improvement
• Operating temperature range: -20 degrees to + 55 degrees
• HVAC for better comfort
• All tyres fitted with Run Flat systems
• Optional - ADNAV system for Inertial navigation/ Global Positioning System to provide position, heading and orientation data with night vision capability

Seating Layout:
• Driver & Commander in front + 8 in Rear
• Option - all front-facing seats

Maintainability:
• Proven, reliable and easy to maintain indigenous Tata aggregates,
• Low life cycle cost due to cost effective indigenous spares
• Largest network of authorized dealers and service stations in the country
• Easy availability of spare parts
• 50,000 base vehicle already in service with Indian Army
• Common aggregates in variants for ease of inventory / logistics management
• Easy accessibility to all major aggregates ensuring serviceability

Variants & Options:
• Troop Carrier
• Command post
• Battlefield ambulance
• Armoured bus with 2x2 front-facing seats
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Specifications: Tata 4x4 LPA 713 Bomb Disposal Van

Mobility:
• Max speed of 105 kmph
• Gradeability 72 %
• Fordability 600 mm
• Step climbing 500 mm
• Differential lock
• Automatic Transmission optional

Protection & Survivability:
• Body ready for up-armouring
• Climate control/HVAC
• Reverse-view camera
• Sliding ramp for robot movement in and out of the vehicle

Seating Layout:
• Comfortable seats & berth for Bomb Disposal Squad
• Specially designed cabinets for keeping bomb disposal accessories

Maintainability:
• Proven, reliable and easy to maintain indigenous Tata aggregates
• Low life cycle cost due to cost effective indigenous spares
• Largest network of authorized dealers and service stations in the country
• Easy availability of spare parts
• 50,000 base vehicles already in service with Indian Army
• Common aggregates in variants for ease of inventory/ logistics management
• Easy accessibility to all major aggregates ensuring serviceability

Additional Features
• Generator for additional power source
• Refrigerator
• Reverse-view camera
• Climate control/HVAC
• Battery charger
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Armoured Tata Safari:


Armoured Tata Safari: The air-conditioned Armoured Safari, offering NIJ Level 3 protection for VVIPs, is equipped with features like hand grenade protection for underbelly, run flat tyres, five exit doors, explosive suppressant material in the fuel tank, extra wide footsteps for escorts and RYG (Red Yellow Green) indicator for escort vehicles. It comes with comfortable interiors, plush seating, and a fine-tuned suspension.

Mobility:
• Maximum speed of 150 kmph
• Gradeability of 60%
• Ground clearance of 205 mm

Protection & Survivability:
• All Sides NIJ Level III BP Protection Glasses CEN 1063: B6 Ballistic Protection.
• Explosive-suppressant material in fuel tank
• All tyres fitted with Run Flat systems
• 5 exit doors
• Concealed armouring gives innocent look
• Anti-lock Braking System

Seating Layout
• Driver & escort in front + 3 in rear seat
• Bucket seats for driver & co-driver
• Front-facing seats in rear

Maintainability:
• Easy to maintain indigenous Tata aggregates
• Low life cycle cost due to cost effective indigenous spares
• Vehicle already in service with SPG and elite security agencies
• Prompt after-sales support by trained company technicians across the country
• Easy availability of spare parts
• Easy accessibility to all major aggregates ensuring serviceability

Additional Features
• Plush leather interiors
• Customized window winding mechanism with controlled opening
• Special reading lamps for VVIP with dual controls
• Optional Public Address system for VVIP movement
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Armoured Tata Sumo:

Armoured Tata Sumo: The Armoured Sumo can carry six troops for counter-insurgency operations especially in hilly off-road terrain. Six firing ports and a roof hatch ensure maximum fire power. It can move from 4x2 to 4x4 mode whilst on the move. It too offers NIJ Level 3 protection, with underbelly protection against hand grenades, run flat tyres, and five exits.

Mobility
• Maximum speed of 95 kmph
• Gradeability of 36%
• Power to weight ratio - 32 Hp / Ton; (35 Hp / Ton optional)
• Electric shift on the move from 4x2 to 4x4

Lethality: 6 swivel type firing ports

Protection & Survivability
• NIJ Level III - All round (7.62 SLR Ball Ammunition @ 10 meters at 90 degrees)
• Underbelly protection against H - 36 hand grenade
• All tyres fitted with Run Flat systems
• 5 doors for easy embarking and disembarking

Seating Layout
• Driver + 5 crew
• Bucket seats for driver & co-driver
• Front-facing seats in middle row
• Side-facing seats in rear

Maintainability
• Easy to maintain indigenous Tata aggregates
• Low life cycle cost due to cost effective indigenous spares
• Base vehicle already in service with Indian Army
• Prompt after-sales support by trained company technicians across the country
• Easy accessibility to all major aggregates ensuring serviceability

Variants & Options
• 3 door version with side-facing rear seats for counter insurgency operations
• Optional roof-hatch for firing and emergency exit
• HVAC (AC + Cab Heating) system
• Demisting, Defrosting of bullet-proof glass
• Optional black-out lamps & army fitments
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Nice! Don't miss those chains around the spare tire. What could the logic behind offering an automatic transmission for a bomb disposal vehicle be?

Also, I have always been curious to know how the armed forces acquire new vehicles and maintain them. I mean one could not just drive into an authorized service station and get these looked at.
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....What could the logic behind offering an automatic transmission for a bomb disposal vehicle be?..
One thing that i can think of:

Bomb disposal = bomb proof = thick plating = very heavy vehicle!!

Therefore the torque converter of an auto transmission probably helps a lot and prevents drivers from wearing out the clutch (if it was a manual)!

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Very very interesting specifications!

What with all that VVIP movement in the Safari & runflats etc, why are the Airbags missing? Does the Armour Plating have anything to do with that I wonder?
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Nice! Don't miss those chains around the spare tire. What could the logic behind offering an automatic transmission for a bomb disposal vehicle be?

Also, I have always been curious to know how the armed forces acquire new vehicles and maintain them. I mean one could not just drive into an authorized service station and get these looked at.
Getting an armed force order is a difficult task, Product will undergo extensive testing as per their requirement before despatch. I think CQAE controls the same. And most of the machines/vehicles are supplied with spare/consumables for few years. Servicing and maint. is done by the engg. wing of the forces (not sure)
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What could the logic behind offering an automatic transmission for a bomb disposal vehicle be?
In addition to Rehaans reasoning, it could be that, in the midst of combat, even an untrained soldier could drive off an Automatic? Versus a 8 / 16 gear manual tranny that requires an expert (double clutching et al)? Just thinking out loud, but when you have a scenario where many on your team could be injured....

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Also, I have always been curious to know how the armed forces acquire new vehicles and maintain them.
Atleast in Deolali (Nasik), the Army has their own internal vehicle maintenance garage. For such specialist vehicles, Tata could also train Army personnel or provide full-time service of their own mechanics.

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What with all that VVIP movement in the Safari & runflats etc, why are the Airbags missing?
Good one. Another metric that surprises me is the claimed 150 kph top speed. The armoured Safari has got to be what, 300 kilos heavier than a regular Safari? What's the top whack of a stock. 160 kph?
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Airbags would inflate when the vehicle is subjected to an attack anywhere on its body. So for an armored vehicle it would be an encumbrance.

Probably the armored Safari uses composite material for its armor instead of solid steel thus lowering its total body weight. A heavily armored vehicle would be so heavy that they can't use the stock engine. The ability to scoot fast under attack is a prerequisite.
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Hey, today's TOI slideshows show that Mahindra has launched a similar looking monster in the defence Expo. Just saw a photo of Anand Mahindra launching it. It reminded me of that huge vehicle shown in Kurt Russell starred "Soldier".
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One thing that i can think of:

Bomb disposal = bomb proof = thick plating = very heavy vehicle!!

Therefore the torque converter of an auto transmission probably helps a lot and prevents drivers from wearing out the clutch (if it was a manual)!
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In addition to Rehaans reasoning, it could be that, in the midst of combat, even an untrained soldier could drive off an Automatic? Versus a 8 / 16 gear manual tranny that requires an expert (double clutching et al)? Just thinking out loud, but when you have a scenario where many on your team could be injured....

Very good points.

And yes, the top speed did surprise me as well. Perhaps a souped up engine. Given the extra weight and plating all over they would not even have to worry about too much twisting torque should they fit an oversized motor into this.
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What with all that VVIP movement in the Safari & runflats etc, why are the Airbags missing?
Given that the vehicle is meant to transport airbags (the VIPs), Tata would have thought it pointless to have any on the vehicle itself.
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Indian automobiles are finally coming of age. It's time we stopped leaning on Russia for our bullets. And airbags would be impractical, I think. Everytime they hit a rock or something, the bags'd inflate.
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I was not knowing Tata is making so many different vehicles for Defense use

very informative thread, thanks for sharing.
A must read for everyone.
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Atleast in Deolali (Nasik), the Army has their own internal vehicle maintenance garage. For such specialist vehicles, Tata could also train Army personnel or provide full-time service of their own mechanics.
Yes, Army regularly Send their Employee's to these manufacturere's Factories for specialisation in vehicle Maintainance . I remember my Dad going to Mahindra plant and to TVS LUCAS for training as an Army Man and getting a Certificate too. He has few Manuals as well from them. He specialises in Jeeps ( Mahindra and old Jongas )

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Great to see TATA coming into the defence auto sector in a big way. For decades now, the armed forces have been using imported vehicles for its specialist roles. With the auto industry in general coming of age in India, it's probably only natural that TATA is moving into this niche sector. All the best to TATA and thanks GTO for the info!!
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