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Old 22nd August 2010, 13:31   #1
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Kamaz Inc. is one of the largest truck manufacturer in Europe and leader in the cargo vehicle market in Russia and the CIS countries, such as Ukrain, Ka Turkmenistan, and Belarus, Kamaz Inc. manufactures a wide range of cargo including tractors, side-board trucks, and tippers. The vehicles come with when arrangements in different sizes and dimension: 4x2, 4x4, 6x4, 6x6, 8x4,and gross weight up to 120 tons. The superstructures rest on the Kamaz chassis. Combination of technical expertise, innovative design, and competitive pricing to offer customers excellent goods and services. Another advantage of Kamaz they require simple and easy maintenance and repair.

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I think these trucks also take part in the Paris-Dakar rally . They should be good . They also should be more VFM than Volvo , MB Actros etc .
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These trucks are much more used in mining than on the roads . We have a lot of them in the mines already in India .
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Saw this monster on road today. Have been seeing this truck for quite some time now, but never got a chance to click.
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By the way, anybody know if these are still available. Has Kamaz provided a Euro-3 engine for these trucks.

Though just for info, this is one of the most shocking engines in the Indian commercial market today. Its shocking not because of how good it is, but because it shows how over engineered it is.

It gives no more than 260hp and 1100nm of torque. Those may seem like pretty good figures, and they are. That is till you see the engine specs. This truck has a twin turbocharged intercooled 11L V8, and still this is all you get from such a behemoth of an engine.
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Saw this monster on road today. Have been seeing this truck for quite some time now, but never got a chance to click.
See the lane indiscipline, perhaps a regular tipper guy is at the wheel.

Can rule the roads by the sheer behemoth presence.
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Just a question, besides bad marketing, why is it that the Kamaz trucks haven't been sold in big numbers so far?

How is it compared to its rivals in terms of price and after sales service?
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Just a question, besides bad marketing, why is it that the Kamaz trucks haven't been sold in big numbers so far?

How is it compared to its rivals in terms of price and after sales service?
Price - ~ 30lks. Total of 5 are running with GK Granites. Few are operating in Ranchi, Vijayawada.

Service -They offer service support for the vehicle you buy in your area.
But you should understand sales and service grows hand to hand - only when sales increses service will be incresed / extended / offered and only when service increses sales increases

This is the View of their rear axle:Something unusual
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Price - ~ 30lks. Total of 5 are running with GK Granites. Few are operating in Ranchi, Vijayawada.

Service -They offer service support for the vehicle you buy in your area.
But you should understand sales and service grows hand to hand - only when sales increses service will be incresed / extended / offered and only when service increses sales increases

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what is this? Horizontal differential hub? what is its advantage?any technical advantage over normal configuration? If I am correct, the prop shaft is connected to the unit mounted on top of the diff and the power is transmitted via helical gear/shaft to horizontal differentials. Could be to provide more vertical axle movement(uneven road surfaces)?

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what is this? Horizontal differential hub? what is its advantage?any technical advantage over normal configuration? If I am correct, the prop shaft is connected to the unit mounted on top of the diff and the power is transmitted via helical gear/shaft to horizontal differentials. Could be to provide more vertical axle movement(uneven road surfaces)?
God only sorry Kamaz only Knows!!
Though we can debate on this - but still this is unusual!!
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Well, another guess. Considering the height of the diff casing, may be there is an extra set of reduction gears inside to help the torque. May be Kamaz use it instead of hub-reduction axles.
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Multiple wins and podiums at the Paris-Dakar proved to be a fantastic marketing and PR tool in the past decade for Kamaz. That said the rally prepared vehicles only use bits and pieces of the road going trucks - much like the WRC cars. Kamaz has a reputation for building rugged trucks but they are certainly nowhere near the likes of Scania, MAN or DAF when it comes to product\Engine development capabilities. Until recently Kamaz relied on Cummins to provide them with higher power \ emission spec engines but I suspect they now have in-house programs for new generation engine development. Daimler trucks has some shareholding in Kamaz.
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A possible JV with AMW trucks is on anvil.. !
MOU has been signed.
Production to be done at AMW plant in bhuj.

A possible announcement this month is expected.
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AMW in talks with Russia’s Kamaz to sell minority stake
The agreement will help the debt-ridden heavy-duty truck maker raise much-needed funds and open up newer export markets for the company’s products

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AMW’s talks with the Russian truck maker come against the backdrop of the strengthening of India-Russia business ties.
Mumbai: Heavy-duty truck maker Asia MotorWorks Ltd (AMW) is in talks with Kamaz Motors Ltd, Russia’s largest truck manufacturer, to sell a significant minority stake, according to three people familiar with the company’s plan.

If the deal goes through, it will be the first of its kind in the truck market in India.

The agreement, said one of the three people, will help debt-ridden AMW raise much-needed funds and also open up newer export markets for the company’s products.

All three spoke on condition of anonymity.

The Bhuj, Gujarat-based truck manufacturer has about Rs.1,300 crore of debt.

“The companies are in an advanced stage of talks and likely to conclude the deal early next month,” said the first person.

“They have been in talks for almost a year now. They just need to arrive at the valuation of the deal, which is likely to happen soon,” said the second person.

This will be the Russian company’s second shot at making inroads into India’s competitive truck market.

Kamaz Motors had entered India in 2009 through a joint venture with the UK’s Vectra Group.

It bought Vectra’s stake in the venture in 2014.

The firm stopped assembling trucks in India a few months ago, according to an official with the India unit of Kamaz Motors. He declined to be named.

The truck maker still has some dealerships and has sold about a thousand trucks in India since 2010.

Anirudh Bhuwalka, managing director and chief executive at AMW, declined to comment.

Alexey Agibalov, chief executive and managing director at Kamaz, hadn’t responded to an email seeking comment, as of press time.

The deal, if concluded, will be a boost for AMW, which has been struggling after a few years of strong sales and successful operations.

Over the last two years, AMW has seen a steep decline in sales by volume, which has forced it to shut some dealerships, cut costs and delay payments to employees. A stake purchase by Kamaz will help ease the financial pressure while allowing the company to access Kamaz’s technology.

AMW is also in the process of converting its rupee debt into dollar debt, said the second person cited above, adding that this will help in reducing the interest burden. This exercise too should conclude by December, this person added.

After a two-year lull, which came on the back of slowing infrastructure projects and weak demand, sales of medium- and heavy-duty trucks in India have been advancing at a brisk pace since June last year. The revival has largely been led by strong replacement demand, in addition to a pickup in road and infrastructure projects along with improved demand in the consumables segment.

Sales of the heavy-duty trucks surged 33.49% to 136,201 units in the first seven months of the current fiscal year, according to industry body Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers.

AMW, however, has been underperforming the broader market. The truck maker’s sales in the same seven-month period collapsed 60% to 749 units.

Besides badly needed equity infusion, the venture will also help AMW in entering newer markets where Kamaz has a presence—as many as 90 countries, said the third person familiar with the company’s plans.

Moreover, it is also likely to bolster AMW’s plans for the defence sector, which the company plans to tap in a big way, he added.

For Kamaz, a deal with AMW will offer a readily available manufacturing facility, and distribution and service footprint in India, which is critical in the trucking business.

Analysts, though, are sceptical about the potential benefits of a deal between the two.

“Neither of them has been successful despite being around for so long,” said S.P. Singh, senior fellow at Delhi-based Indian Foundation of Transport Research and Training.

“The only possible synergy that I can think of is in defence, with the sector opening up for private companies,” he added.

While it does look like a winning combination on the face of it, with AMW having distribution strength and local market knowledge and Kamaz the technology for high-end trucks, it’s not possible to say whether it will work in the long term, said Abdul Majeed, auto practice leader at consulting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers India.

“Unless the objectives are clearly defined and both have common goals, partnerships do not work,” said Majeed.

To be sure, there have been numerous instances of short-lived joint ventures in the commercial vehicles space. These include partnerships between Mahindra and Mahindra Ltd and Navistar Inc., Hero Group and Daimler AG, and MAN AG and Force Motors Ltd.

AMW’s talks with the Russian truck maker come against the backdrop of the strengthening of India-Russia business ties.

India and Russia have signed several agreements, some worth billions of dollars, in areas spanning civil nuclear cooperation, defence, energy and diamonds, as the two nations strengthened their ties during Russian President Vladimir Putin’s one-day visit to the country in December 2014.

Key deals signed included those between Russian energy firm OAO Rosneft with India’s Essar Oil Ltd for importing crude oil over a 10-year period, and Russia’s diamond mining group Alrosa OJSC signing a pact worth $2.1 billion for the direct sale of rough diamonds to Indian companies.
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According to known resources the deal is already struck and the Housr plant of Kamaz is already in the closing stage. The Kamaz trucks will henceforth can be produced from Bhuj and there could be joint selling of brands.
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