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Old 19th December 2014, 19:25   #1
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Default The Tech-savvy Chabiwala for Keys & Remotes - Kishanlal (Gurgaon)

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Duplicates automotive keys, repairs remote key units for central locking systems.


What I like:
  • Competent work
  • Can handle systems on most common cars on Indian roads
  • At-your-doorstep service within Gurgaon
What I don't like:
  • Parking issues where he is located
  • What you may not like: Not your polished English-speaking kind of fellow

Pricing:
  • Reasonable. Amenable to bargaining. Charges more for doorstep service.
What I have used his services for:

He provided doorstep service when a friend's Fortuner refused to unlock and start, with the central locking system remote malfunctioning.

Kishanlal also sells tyres of most common brands and sizes, and provides wheel balancing & alignment services. I have bought tyres from him a number of times, and have known him for the last 15+ years.


Contact information:
  • Kishanlal Chawla can be reached on +91-98118-36940
  • Location: Maharaja Agrasen Chowk, near Sadar Bazar, Gurgaon
  • GPS coordinates: 28.462710, 77.032273
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Signboard

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Kishanlal Chawla

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Key blanks displayed

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Key duplicating machines

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OBD reader equipment used

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Old 20th December 2014, 15:05   #2
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Man, this guy goes the whole nine yards . I've never seen a chabiwala with such an elaborate setup.

If SS-Traveller likes him, you can bet he's good. Thanks for sharing the hidden gem . It's the exact purpose of the Team-BHP Directory.
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Help me understand this - does he duplicate the keys of immobilizer equipped cars like Swift too? What do those OBD readers do? This is interesting to know.

The rest of his stuff is pretty standard.
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Help me understand this - does he duplicate the keys of immobilizer equipped cars like Swift too? What do those OBD readers do?
He can replace damaged chips inside the key/remote (such as after water immersion), and then code the chip to allow the ECM to read the chip and unlock the engine immobilizer. So making a new duplicate key with another chip inside it, which is programmed similarly, should not be a problem.

The OBD readers are used to connect the chip to the ECM via the OBD port and program the chip. Not sure exactly how he programs it, but the different readers have separate softwares in them for different car makes and models.
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That is some great stuff. I might get a secondary flippy key made from him as the misers at VW decide that a single flippy key is enough for GT owners.
Do you think that the immobilizer can be duplicated without breaking the key?
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Old 22nd December 2014, 09:36   #6
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Do you think that the immobilizer can be duplicated without breaking the key?
I guess the best thing to do would be to call up and ask him. I have very little idea of how or whether it can be done, along with practically zero experience of VW electronics.
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I used this chap's services for cutting the flippy key which I had ordered from china for Honda Brio.

Pro's
  1. Methodical approach. Checked the chassis and key no. of the vehicle and used software to proceed
  2. Well equipped. Had a funky looking machine to cut keys with a tablet attached to it. Knew how to use it well
  3. Offered to make a separate remote incase I wanted to retain my original key as well which I politely declined
  4. Good customer service. Assembled the key nicely, stuck the monogram, checked it multiple times in all locks and then finally asked me to check the key to my satisfaction as well.

Con's
  1. Located in the most congested area of gurgaon. Though parking is not an issue, he has ample space in front of his shop reserved for customers only
  2. Even after using all the fancy machines and gadgetry the key got stuck in the cylinder and he had to resort to manual filing finally after multiple passes on the machine to make it work smoothly. Big letdown for me

Other concerns
  1. Did not ask for any ID or contact details from me which was surprising. I thought it was mandatory to ask for such identification when duplicating a vehicle key
  2. I found him to be very expensive. He did not intimate me the cost before hands and I was mentally prepared to pay upto 300 bucks. He charged me 500 bucks which I think is very steep since I had provided the key. I may be out of sync because last time I got a key duplicated was years ago for a Maruti Alto which costed 65 bucks including the cost of key.

Overall, I would still highly recommend this place if you want top workmanship and equipment for duplicating keys.

Some pics of my stylish key fob to show off. Not bad for a total cost of INR 1100?

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I used this chap's services for cutting the flippy key which I had ordered from china for Honda Brio.

I found him to be very expensive. He did not intimate me the cost before hands and I was mentally prepared to pay upto 300 bucks. He charged me 500 bucks which I think is very steep since I had provided the key.
O Boy! Charging Rs.500 for duplication of a key is a daylight robbery, especially since your key fob must have come with a blank blade to carve the key impression onto.

Seems the key maker is in competition with gurgaon real estate. Or probably, he charges by looking at the car.

I got my keyfob for Swift from aliexpress and paid a cool Rs.100 for the key duplication at Model Town market, Delhi.

O.T: While getting a duplicate key, it is preferable to go in another car with a friend so that(in worst case scenario) the key maker or his workers are unable to identify the car for any hanky panky. So, while they can duplicate an additional key or immobilizer chip, they cannot identify the car. Just being cautious.
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He can replace damaged chips inside the key/remote (such as after water immersion), and then code the chip to allow the ECM to read the chip and unlock the engine immobilizer. So making a new duplicate key with another chip inside it, which is programmed similarly, should not be a problem.

The OBD readers are used to connect the chip to the ECM via the OBD port and program the chip. Not sure exactly how he programs it, but the different readers have separate softwares in them for different car makes and models.
I think I'll make a visit one of these days. One of the remotes of my sister's car is not working due to water/moisture that swept in accidentally.
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