Carputer and ICE Installation : Swift - Team-BHP

nisarg86 · 14th January 2009, 03:27

Hey guys. I am building carputer for my Swift.
So far I have got the following stuffs. You can check out the pics.http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post1095879 (Finally Got My Dream Diesel (Swift Vdi).)

Motherboard: Intel D945GCLF
RAM: Transcend DDR2 2 GB 667
HDD: Segate 160 GB SATA (2.5" Lappy HDD)
OS: Windows XP Professional (nlited)
Power supply: SB-100D Automotive Power Supply (iRide)
Enclosure: Quadrant-Fx Enclosure (iRide)
Display: IRV-070SE (iRide)
BSNL EV-DO USB Internet.
USB Bluetooth Dongle:
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Stuffs to buy.
USB Wi-Fi Adapter (Buffalo Inc. )
USB GPS Unit.(Any Recommendation)
USB HUB .
Most Importantly USB Sound card. As PCI one wont fit in case. So I have finalized Creative X-Fi. (Creative USB Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Sound Card - Get more out of your music and movies).

ICE Setup.
Front Compo. : Illusion Audio EL 6.1
Amp for Compo. : JBL GTO 1004
Subwoofer : Ground Zero GZTW 12Mk2
Amp for subwoofer : confused. ? JBL GTO 3501 mono OR Kenwood 8404 ?
Amp Wiring Kit : Ground Zero GZPK10
RCA Cable : Ichibahn ISTS 20
Enclosure : MDF based for SUB
Damping : Noise Kill

Now does rear fill require at all ? Wont it screw up my front soundstage ?
Looking forward for some gyaan on this as well as on carputer if I am missing something.

Thanx.
Nisarg.

gigy · 14th January 2009, 10:27

Rear fills are not required. It can be added later if required. then single amplifier is sufficient tp power the fronts and subwoofer. wire the setup with dual amplifier in mind.Do you have a microphone? What is the cost of usb creative X-Fi? Dose it have a 2.1 output option?You can also think about a slim dvd. it helps in reloading operating system without disturbing the setup and copying music to hard disk on the road, and playing movies directly.

nisarg86 · 14th January 2009, 11:24

Hey Gigy. Thanks for the reply.
I dont have microphone currently but soon i will get it. Cost of Creative X-Fi is around 4K. It has 5.1 Output. OS can be reloaded via Flash Drive. but yup slim DVD drive would definately help playing mp3 cds and movies.

gigy · 14th January 2009, 16:21

I would suggest you look at better sound card as this one has reliability issues. Does not work with centrafuse, crappy bundled software, hibernation issues. heard so from users. Preferably try avoiding usb sound card. it also loads the cpu. in car use 2.1 works best as its music all the time which plays. even i wanted 2.1 but thats not available . i have 2,4,6,8 channel selection only. getting the preouts at the sound processor level is better than varying at the amplifier.

abhinav.gupta88 · 14th January 2009, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by nisarg86

Hey guys.
Amp for subwoofer : confused. ? JBL GTO 3501 mono OR Kenwood 8404 ?

Now does rear fill require at all ? Wont it screw up my front soundstage ?
Looking forward for some gyaan on this as well as on carputer if I am missing something.

Thanx.
Nisarg.

I'd recommend a JBL mono over a Kenwood.
It is good enough to power the sub.

Rear fills are not required IMO as you will be driving.
But if any circumstance than you wont be driving always, you could go in for a set of Illusions to match the front stage and use the fader for the sound from front only.

nisarg86 · 14th January 2009, 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by gigy

I would suggest you look at better sound card as this one has reliability issues. Does not work with centrafuse, crappy bundled software, hibernation issues. heard so from users. Preferably try avoiding usb sound card. it also loads the cpu. in car use 2.1 works best as its music all the time which plays. even i wanted 2.1 but thats not available . i have 2,4,6,8 channel selection only. getting the preouts at the sound processor level is better than varying at the amplifier.

Hmmm. Read that on many forums. now where to get 2.1 or do I have any other choice ?

@ Abhi . I think i should get the DVC SUB which can be operated at 2 ohm. 400w @ 2 ohm by bridged 2 channels. So MONO amp can be eliminate. and most of the time only I am gonna drive it. So no rear fills.

shreyasma · 15th January 2009, 16:10

Thats one nice config you got on list. once finished...it should be very neat

Dont forget to post pics and the breakup of cost

nisarg86 · 17th January 2009, 00:35

Guys . How is this GPS Device ?
Amazon.com: GlobalSat BU-353 WaterProof USB GPS Receiver (SiRF Star III): Electronics
Will this one work with mapmyindia ?

gigy · 17th January 2009, 11:33

It should work but what is the final cost price when it reaches your hand? How are you going to use with mapmyindia? Do they give software for pc, if so how much?

nisarg86 · 17th January 2009, 12:04

They are not providing maps & softwares for Laptop/PC. will get Quote from KMD.

sdh · 17th January 2009, 12:15

MapMyIndia has moved to MioMap variant. So if there is PC version of MioMap, getting maps from MapMyIndia will help.

monty9991 · 17th January 2009, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by gigy

I would suggest you look at better sound card as this one has reliability issues. Does not work with centrafuse, crappy bundled software, hibernation issues. heard so from users. Preferably try avoiding usb sound card. it also loads the cpu. in car use 2.1 works best as its music all the time which plays. even i wanted 2.1 but thats not available . i have 2,4,6,8 channel selection only. getting the preouts at the sound processor level is better than varying at the amplifier.

i am also planing to get a USB sound card for better SQ. but cant get the PCI one because of space, so i need to go for USB only. can you suggest some USB sound card?

gigy · 18th January 2009, 17:57

You can try to source this. got good reviews from audiophiles.
SilverStone EB01 Premium Digital to Analog Converter

PC Modding Malaysia: content / silverstone eb01 premium digital to analog converter

another usb sound card, i dont know about its quality.
TurtleBeach 7.15.1 Audio Advantage SRM (TBS-1131) in Canada at TigerDirect.ca

this site has a good list of information regarding usb sound cards.
Ultimate USB, Firewire, External Soundcard List - MP3Car.com

gigy · 19th January 2009, 15:38

I think this stereo usb audio device from asus {xonar u1} is good for stereo setup. rest the amplifiers should take care.cost 4k. The top rotates for volume control can be a cool feature and mounted in center console.
A user review-
ASUS Xonar U1 USB Audio Station Review - Reviews and Previews - TechEnclave

Available here
http://buygamingstuff.com/shop/index...ede91429755b7d

monty9991 · 19th January 2009, 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by gigy

I think this stereo usb audio device from asus {xonar u1} is good for stereo setup. rest the amplifiers should take care.cost 4k. The top rotates for volume control can be a cool feature and mounted in center console.
A user review-
ASUS Xonar U1 USB Audio Station Review - Reviews and Previews - TechEnclave

Available here
http://buygamingstuff.com/shop/index...ede91429755b7d

but does this has 5.1 ?

14th January 2009, 03:27	#1 (permalink)
nisarg86 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 233	Carputer and ICE Installation : Swift Hey guys. I am building carputer for my Swift. So far I have got the following stuffs. You can check out the pics.http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post1095879 (Finally Got My Dream Diesel (Swift Vdi).) Motherboard: Intel D945GCLF RAM: Transcend DDR2 2 GB 667 HDD: Segate 160 GB SATA (2.5" Lappy HDD) OS: Windows XP Professional (nlited) Power supply: SB-100D Automotive Power Supply (iRide) Enclosure: Quadrant-Fx Enclosure (iRide) Display: IRV-070SE (iRide) BSNL EV-DO USB Internet. USB Bluetooth Dongle: Stuffs to buy. USB Wi-Fi Adapter (Buffalo Inc. ) USB GPS Unit.(Any Recommendation) USB HUB . Most Importantly USB Sound card. As PCI one wont fit in case. So I have finalized Creative X-Fi. (Creative USB Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Sound Card - Get more out of your music and movies). ICE Setup. Front Compo. : Illusion Audio EL 6.1 Amp for Compo. : JBL GTO 1004 Subwoofer : Ground Zero GZTW 12Mk2 Amp for subwoofer : confused. ? JBL GTO 3501 mono OR Kenwood 8404 ? Amp Wiring Kit : Ground Zero GZPK10 RCA Cable : Ichibahn ISTS 20 Enclosure : MDF based for SUB Damping : Noise Kill Now does rear fill require at all ? Wont it screw up my front soundstage ? Looking forward for some gyaan on this as well as on carputer if I am missing something. Thanx. Nisarg. Last edited by aah78 : 14th January 2009 at 03:38. Reason: Image uploaded to server. Please don't use external picture hosting websites. Thanks!

14th January 2009, 10:27	#2 (permalink)
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,009	Rear fills are not required. It can be added later if required. then single amplifier is sufficient tp power the fronts and subwoofer. wire the setup with dual amplifier in mind.Do you have a microphone? What is the cost of usb creative X-Fi? Dose it have a 2.1 output option?You can also think about a slim dvd. it helps in reloading operating system without disturbing the setup and copying music to hard disk on the road, and playing movies directly. Last edited by gigy : 14th January 2009 at 10:40.

14th January 2009, 16:21	#4 (permalink)
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,009	I would suggest you look at better sound card as this one has reliability issues. Does not work with centrafuse, crappy bundled software, hibernation issues. heard so from users. Preferably try avoiding usb sound card. it also loads the cpu. in car use 2.1 works best as its music all the time which plays. even i wanted 2.1 but thats not available . i have 2,4,6,8 channel selection only. getting the preouts at the sound processor level is better than varying at the amplifier. Last edited by gigy : 14th January 2009 at 16:31.

15th January 2009, 16:10	#7 (permalink)
shreyasma BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bang! Posts: 535 View My Garage	Thats one nice config you got on list. once finished...it should be very neat Dont forget to post pics and the breakup of cost __________________ Cheers! Shreyas *"Two Wrongs don't make a Right, but three Rights make a Left!"*

18th January 2009, 17:57	#13 (permalink)
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,009	You can try to source this. got good reviews from audiophiles. SilverStone EB01 Premium Digital to Analog Converter PC Modding Malaysia: content / silverstone eb01 premium digital to analog converter another usb sound card, i dont know about its quality. TurtleBeach 7.15.1 Audio Advantage SRM (TBS-1131) in Canada at TigerDirect.ca this site has a good list of information regarding usb sound cards. Ultimate USB, Firewire, External Soundcard List - MP3Car.com Last edited by gigy : 18th January 2009 at 18:08.

14th January 2009, 11:24	#3 (permalink)
nisarg86 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 233	Hey Gigy. Thanks for the reply. I dont have microphone currently but soon i will get it. Cost of Creative X-Fi is around 4K. It has 5.1 Output. OS can be reloaded via Flash Drive. but yup slim DVD drive would definately help playing mp3 cds and movies.

17th January 2009, 00:35	#8 (permalink)
nisarg86 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 233	Guys . How is this GPS Device ? Amazon.com: GlobalSat BU-353 WaterProof USB GPS Receiver (SiRF Star III): Electronics Will this one work with mapmyindia ?

17th January 2009, 11:33	#9 (permalink)
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,009	It should work but what is the final cost price when it reaches your hand? How are you going to use with mapmyindia? Do they give software for pc, if so how much?

17th January 2009, 12:04	#10 (permalink)
nisarg86 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 233	They are not providing maps & softwares for Laptop/PC. will get Quote from KMD.

17th January 2009, 12:15	#11 (permalink)
sdh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 105	MapMyIndia has moved to MioMap variant. So if there is PC version of MioMap, getting maps from MapMyIndia will help.

19th January 2009, 15:38	#14 (permalink)
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,009	I think this stereo usb audio device from asus {xonar u1} is good for stereo setup. rest the amplifiers should take care.cost 4k. The top rotates for volume control can be a cool feature and mounted in center console. A user review- ASUS Xonar U1 USB Audio Station Review - Reviews and Previews - TechEnclave Available here http://buygamingstuff.com/shop/index...ede91429755b7d Attached Images Last edited by gigy : 19th January 2009 at 15:41.

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