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Old 10th January 2010, 10:15   #2731
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It took me few minutes to guess where this place is. Seems very much not like Kerala isn't it?
Yeah man, you should have seen this with your eyes, i am happy the cam was able to do some justice.

BTW i have picasa on my computer (RAW doesn't open with any other application) and it kinda corrects and saves the images automatically the way it feels. Any RAW viewer?

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Old 10th January 2010, 10:42   #2732
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BTW i have picasa on my computer (RAW doesn't open with any other application) and it kinda corrects and saves the images automatically the way it feels. Any RAW viewer?


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IrfanView with the plugins will allow you to view most of the RAW files.

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Old 10th January 2010, 11:02   #2733
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@Pramod,

Firstly, you should get the RAW file thumbnailer (Precisely the ARW thumbnailer for Alpha RAW files) for Windows, it will save you a lot of time figuring out which RAW file is which because once this is installed, you get to see the thumbnails of any RAW file without opening it.

Download it from

http://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/...raw/index.html

Look at how I see RAW files in my laptop (This is the actual image's thumbnail you're seeing. all look the same because it is the same photograph almost)

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You can see that it displays thumbnails for even my PSD files created in CS4. Reason: I've got the psd thumbnailer dll registered too.

Secondly, I don't think Picasa is a good RAW file viewer because it makes the RAW file appear a lot duller than it actually is. Do not allow Picasa to open RAW files in its viewer. You can configure it using Picasa Photo Viewer configuration.

I use the good old Windows Photo Gallery to view the RAW files.

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Good RAW editors: (In descending order of my liking)

1) CS4 with Adobe Camera RAW 5.0 - Feature rich & performance
2) RAW Therapee (Free) - Feature rich, but slow
3) Sony Image Data Converter - Feature less - not too fast
4) Picasa - I won't recommend it - Images look bad, feature less

I am sure there are more.

To reduce Image noise, the best software I've used so far is

Noiseware from imagenomic.com. The noise reduction is just perfect. Sad thing is that it cannot directly operate on RAW, but it takes TIFF, JPEG etc.

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Old 10th January 2010, 11:09   #2734
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yes as suggested get RAW thumbnail viewer. Also RAW files work best with the converters provided by the camera maker. Like DPP from Canon. However for convenience i use adobe lightroom. its probably the best organizer and editor built into one
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Old 10th January 2010, 12:47   #2735
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I'm surprised no one's recommending tamron here? They make awesome lens too!

Below are my two main cameras. both have tamrons on them all the time.

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Some pics I took with my old 450D and the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 VC:

Plane that brought me to India. 0.6sec handheld:

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Bus that took me to Mysore at 12.30am. 0.8sec handheld.

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Volvo Cockpit. 1 sec handheld:

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Volvo Dash. Took this when the bus started moving. 0.6sec handheld.

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Plane that brought me to India. 0.6sec handheld:
Bus that took me to Mysore at 12.30am. 0.8sec handheld.
Volvo Cockpit. 1 sec handheld:
Volvo Dash. Took this when the bus started moving. 0.6sec handheld.
You have steady hands! Or is it the IS?
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Old 10th January 2010, 15:47   #2737
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500D is a step higher than 1000D, it feels much better in your hands and build quality is a tiny bit better.

People going to argue with me but i suggest leave both aside and get a 450D if you want to go Canon way and spend rest of the money on the lenses.
I would also recommend the 450D over the 500D because of the price difference. The 500D is just 450D with video recording capability. But I would ask you to go for the 1000D because thats also a wonderful camera and will save you some money which you can use to buy a lens or two. But remember, the more you take pictures, the better the camera!

I mean any camera can be a good one if you know how to use it!
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Old 10th January 2010, 19:53   #2738
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Hi, I am confused between the 1000D and the 500D. Any suggestions? I do not have any video capturing needs, and this is going to be my first DSLR.
I was contemplating the 1000D with the IS lens, but a lot of people seem to be suggesting that it is hardly an upgrade from point and shoot cameras.
I too would suggest 450D instead of 500D. 450D lacks live view, movie mode and its 12Mp compared to 15MP of 500D. Its got spot metering which 1000D lacks.

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yes as suggested get RAW thumbnail viewer. Also RAW files work best with the converters provided by the camera maker. Like DPP from Canon. However for convenience i use adobe lightroom. its probably the best organizer and editor built into one
Yep i too find light room great if when i have many files to process. Advantage DPP is that it can do peripheral illumination correction, distortion correction, chromatic aberration correction and colour blur correction all based on the Canon lens used (doesn't work with all canon lenses, dint work with 50mm 1.8 mkII works with new gen lenses).

Does it work with 3rd party lenses?

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I'm surprised no one's recommending tamron here? They make awesome lens too!

Below are my two main cameras. both have tamrons on them all the time.

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Some pics I took with my old 450D and the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 VC:

Plane that brought me to India. 0.6sec handheld:

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Bus that took me to Mysore at 12.30am. 0.8sec handheld.

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Volvo Cockpit. 1 sec handheld:

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Volvo Dash. Took this when the bus started moving. 0.6sec handheld.

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Sunny, VC is working really well i guess. Much better than kit lenses i guess. I like Tamron, prefer this than Sigma. We bought an Axis IP cam, it came with Tamron zoom lens, but manual zoom and manual focussing (Designed to be set and forgotten).

Have you started using your EOS 30? How many rolls over?
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450D lacks live view
The 450D has Live View
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Old 10th January 2010, 21:28   #2740
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The 450D has Live View
Yes it does! Got confused.
450D has live view and phase detect AF while 500D has got live view and got phase deect and contract detect AF. Guess i'm not confused with this one!
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Old 10th January 2010, 23:49   #2741
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I am in Germany these days and it is available for 450 EUR in Germany. If the price is same in India I can go for it. Also let me if any better camera with lense is available for the same price.
After reading lot of review and making myself confused. I have decided to buy used DSLR instead new for practice and experience. Got 2 year old Canon 400D for 300 EUR including default 17-55 lense.

I feel being a beginner it is best to have your hands on used DSLR and depending on the need one can upgrade later

Now its time to explore the DSLR world and learn photography.
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300 Euro for a used 400D? Seems to be on the higher side (assuming 300 Euros = US $432).

You can get a refurb XS/1000D for $399 and a refurb XSi/ 450D for $499 - both are offered with the EF-S 18-55 IS lens as a part of the kit offering, and with warranty (US, of course).

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300 Euro for a used 400D? Seems to be on the higher side (assuming 300 Euros = US $432).

You can get a refurb XS/1000D for $399 and a refurb XSi/ 450D for $499 - both are offered with the EF-S 18-55 IS lens as a part of the kit offering, and with warranty (US, of course).
I think he is getting a steal considering the 17-55 Canon he is getting with the body.
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300 Euro for a used 400D? Seems to be on the higher side (assuming 300 Euros = US $432).

You can get a refurb XS/1000D for $399 and a refurb XSi/ 450D for $499 - both are offered with the EF-S 18-55 IS lens as a part of the kit offering, and with warranty (US, of course).
here in germany, used canon, europian model, with original bill, has strong resale value. People even pays upto 450 eur if cam has extended waranty.
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I think he is getting a steal considering the 17-55 Canon he is getting with the body.
Am guessing that it is the kit lens (18-55), and 17-55 is a typo...
@pawan_pullarwar, can you confirm if it is 17-55 or 18-55 that you are getting with the camera? Like @Sparkled has said, if it is 17-55, then its a steal!
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here in germany, used canon, europian model, with original bill, has strong resale value. People even pays upto 450 eur if cam has extended waranty.
If you have anyone travelling to the US and back, then...
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