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Old 7th April 2010, 15:50   #3496
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LOL no art here folks. You won't find any VR in ultra wide angles, because these are primarily landscape lenses, and in low light are used on a tripod. Even handheld, with low light you can shoot 1/focal length that gives you about 1/15 shutter speeds without blur.
Even in twilight you can manage 1/15 with ISO 800 or so.
However at longer focal lenghts once light starts fading, maintaining 1/focal length becomes impossible unless you really crank up ISO
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Old 7th April 2010, 15:55   #3497
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A normal person needs VR, IS, OS or VC in most lenses. Tanveer has mastered the art of keeping himself steady even in a moving bus !!
But yes, the question is valid, I feel that IS is not required in a wide angle as you require it in a Zoom lens. its very easy to get a steady shot at wide angle. Please correct me if I am wrong

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Old 7th April 2010, 15:56   #3498
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Yes I second that. I have shot 1/12 to 1/10 with my Tokina 12-24 at 12mm without any problems. VR/IS is not really required at these focal lengths. Just look at the Nikon 14-24 2.8. It has no VR as these focal lengths don't really need it.

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Old 7th April 2010, 16:39   #3499
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None of the above comes with xx-300zoom..
I know they will come with 18-55, xx-300mm was addtional
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Old 7th April 2010, 16:42   #3500
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Hi SPARKled, can you please post some pics taken with your Tokina at 12 mm?
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Old 7th April 2010, 18:13   #3501
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You won't find any VR in ultra wide angles, because these are primarily landscape lenses, and in low light are used on a tripod.
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I feel that IS is not required in a wide angle as you require it in a Zoom lens.
I was just pulling tanveer's leg. There are people using even 18-55 non-VR lenses (not forgetting the non-vr version of 70-300 from sigma and nikon) and getting very striking images. Its all about skill that comes by practice.

Tanveer, do you use CPL on your landscape lenses to get that dark blue or clearer cloud as seen in some of your facebook album shots ? I could have asked this question there, but thought if it helps someone else, why not here.
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Old 7th April 2010, 20:49   #3502
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Guys i am looking for an SLR and my budget is around 20k.

I got this following offer from ebay. it say canon 1000D for rs. 20,850/-

Shall i go for it ?

here's the link to it.

eBay India: Canon EOS-1000D + 18-55mm Lens + 2 Years Mfr Warranty (item 150430761045 end time 12-Apr-2010 11:00:16 IST)

If not the above, Please suggest a good cam in 20 k price range.

I am also looking at Nikon D3000.

Please pour in with ur advice since i have to make a quick decision.

Abbas.
D3000 and 1000D, both are equally good and 99% of reviews/comparos suggest to handle them cameras and choose one which you feel comfortable with. If going for the 1000D, try to go for IS lens. D3000 comes with VR lens (Nikon speak for IS). I was in the same dilemma a few weeks back. Now working on getting my budget up, to get a 500D
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Old 7th April 2010, 22:22   #3503
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What was the total cost of the product? Where exactly is the shop located?
Sorry for replying Late - An Enfield and a SLR can really push to you to make some crazy plans - was recuperating from the ride.

1000D w/ 18-55 IS lens = 21500(Cam) + 1200 (IS option w/o bill) + 750 (Bill for body + w/o IS lens) + 9750 (70-300 MM AF III USM Lens (w/o bill))+ 500 (buy back 2 GB free card and got an 8 GB) + 750 (2 marumi UV filters for 375 - for each lens) + 100 for Lens Hood total = 34500 (If there are any mistakes -kindly do not point out - Its too late now.)

Angel Foto is situated in Fort - when u get out of the CST in Mumbai, turn left, walk straight up (or ask for camera shops in general), near the Varke shop (on the left - Cam repairs) ask for Angel Foto (not Photo). You may also ask for ICICI ATM (which is now closed). From the main road when you go in the gully, the road turns right and the shop is situated immediatly to the left.

You may wish to enquire around before going there. I got the best rate there on that day (I have heard these fluctuate by the hour.).
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Wanted to help a friend.
He is looking for a DSLR under 30k.
Olympus E450 24k
Olympus E520 28k
Canon 1000D 22k
Nikon D3000 27k

Which one would be good for Landscape and occational birding. He is thinking of going for zoom xx-300mm also.
Hi
Please help me to help my friend
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Old 8th April 2010, 10:58   #3505
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Tanveer, do you use CPL on your landscape lenses to get that dark blue or clearer cloud as seen in some of your facebook album shots ? I could have asked this question there, but thought if it helps someone else, why not here.
Yup, the shots are with polarizer on. They were taken with 18-55
But now that I have the wide angle, no more polarizers for me. they are not good when used on an ultrawide as the color of sky will change across the frame.
So with the tamron, it will be Graduated ND filter for me.
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Hi SPARKled, can you please post some pics taken with your Tokina at 12 mm?
My home PC having all my pics is long dead and buried. But I do have a few old shots on my office PC when I initially bought the lens from Canoga camera 4 years ago. These are really nothing shots but are shot wide open and with shutter speeds of around 1/12 to justify that you don't really need IS/VR at these focal lengths. Also there is no sharpening or any kind of processing done to these except maybe color or contrast correction.
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Planning to buy a Basic DSLR, can you guys suggest which one would be a good buy, my budget will around 25K
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Planning to buy a Basic DSLR, can you guys suggest which one would be a good buy, my budget will around 25K
Pentax K-x kit. You have to get it from USA though.
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Old 8th April 2010, 13:30   #3509
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Thanks thalovoy; any suggestion for Nikon or Canon I can stretch my budget if needed.

Need to buy it in India itself as i may get reimbursed for the same.

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Old 8th April 2010, 13:37   #3510
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In that case get the Canon 450D. With the 550D, the price drop is big, and you can get the 18-55IS kit for as low as 28-30K
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