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Old 21st April 2010, 10:27   #3691
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Why the stupid questions? Well, my wife decided enough is enough since I do not part with my Nikon D90, she wants to go the Canon way and show who is best-both (gear) constructors and (talent) individual championship.
If this is the case then I think you should encourage your wife to purchase Nikon as you can build a common set of lenses that can be used for both cameras.

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Hey Guys:

I have a question for all Canon users/lovers. We always hear experts mentioning that given the budget one should spend on an expensive len than an expensive camera body. Are there limitations to this?

For example:
1. How does a Canon 1000D handle with 100-400 L lens in terms of weight distribution? or the stress on the mount on account of weight of the lens

2. Is there any difference in form factor/ergonomics between Canon 1000D-right upto Canon 550D after which ofcourse the body becomes perceptively larger.

Why the stupid questions? Well, my wife decided enough is enough since I do not part with my Nikon D90, she wants to go the Canon way and show who is best-both (gear) constructors and (talent) individual championship.
Its actually not the handling but AF etc., also which matters.
If you are thinking of birding, then anything upto 400D, including the 1000D is no go. They use the older AF module.
From 450D onwards, canon finally listened to the brickbats, and upgraded the AF module on its 450D.
So 450D/500D/550D will focus faster and more accurately than the 1000D/400D/350D
OTOH, if you are an action shooter(fast sports), then 40D/50D/7D is what you want.
Ideally for budget shooters 40D is the best, and for the big budget shooters its the 7D

So yes, you should spend more on the lenses, but some attention needs to be paid to body too, esp when talking about telephoto lenses.
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Old 21st April 2010, 11:21   #3693
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@tanveer: Thanks very much will try to look at the options suggested by you. I don't think she will be interested in birding. I gave the example of 100-400 MM L just to check the operational boundaries. Now I have a clear idea.

@dipak: I could sure do that but when did wives start listening to good advice from husbands. Just Kidding!

Cheers!
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Old 21st April 2010, 13:23   #3694
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Thanks a lot but is not the kit lens for the 1000D a non IS lens. We dont want that lens. We want the 18-55 IS instead. So can you ask him what the adition cost of the 18-55 IS instead of the kit lens will be. If he cant do that then maybe we'd have to get the 450 with kit lens (the kit lens for the 450D is the 18-55 IS) and the 55-250.
Navin, sure. I've sent Jayesh a txt asking for the 1000D combo with 18-55 IS lens in xchange of the non-IS one. I doubt I'll get an answer before midnight today, so if you want the reply earlier than noon tomorrow, plz PM/leave here, your number/email and I'll send it to you from my phone as soon as I receive it. [no broadband at home right now, so I can only post by noon tomorrow].

Also Jayesh does not currently have stock of the 450D and he will give the price of it only after he get's stock, I think.

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OTOH, if you are an action shooter(fast sports), then 40D/50D/7D is what you want.
Ideally for budget shooters 40D is the best, and for the big budget shooters its the 7D

So yes, you should spend more on the lenses, but some attention needs to be paid to body too, esp when talking about telephoto lenses.
Nice suggestion there Tanveer. Sorry to keep asking but in what ways [if] is the 40D superior to the 550D, other than fast [frames] shooting. I only want to know from Image Quality perspective. Thanks.
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Ajay - Sorry to butt in late can you check costing of 450D also for me? Hope i am not asking for too much. PM me when and what time you are planning to go, incase if i am not travelling this weekend i too can accompany you guys.
Hurry Cane, Jayesh doesn't seem to have 450D in stock. He said he'll try to get, I've requested him to see if he can get price by night of Thursday 22nd. FYI.
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Nice suggestion there Tanveer. Sorry to keep asking but in what ways [if] is the 40D superior to the 550D, other than fast [frames] shooting. I only want to know from Image Quality perspective. Thanks.
Nothing really. Just faster AF, and slightly lower noise in some conditions(12MP sensor vs 18MP).
If you are not a sports shooter and do not require that quick AF 550D makes more sense.
But be aware, the 40D is a faster camera(focus speed, burst speed, shot to shot time etc.,)
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In the above list 500D is the best all rounder but since you are in UK
Look for Pentax Kx with dual lens kit it is the best in entry level and with dual kit lenses 18-55 and 55-300 fits in your budget as well.
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The 1000D combo mentioned above is available in Germany for Euro 500 which is cheaper but the 2 lenses are non IS and not that great. They were not offering the 1000D with the 18-55IS lens.
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From 450D onwards, canon finally listened to the brickbats, and upgraded the AF module on its 450D.
So 450D/500D/550D will focus faster and more accurately than the 1000D/400D/350D

So yes, you should spend more on the lenses, but some attention needs to be paid to body too, esp when talking about telephoto lenses.
thanks guys for this wonderful gyan.

i would try to looks at 450D/500D/550D and possibly a lense combo with IS lenses.

thanks
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Nothing really. Just faster AF, and slightly lower noise in some conditions(12MP sensor vs 18MP).
If you are not a sports shooter and do not require that quick AF 550D makes more sense.
But be aware, the 40D is a faster camera(focus speed, burst speed, shot to shot time etc.,)
Tanveer, thanks. But I think the 40D has a 10mp if I remember right from a review i read last week. Anyway [scratching head time again].

I'm really at a lesser than or at novice level with photography, but really aim to learn and climb my way up to taking good photographs; as someone else mentioned earlier in this thread, it's not everyday that I will be buying SLR bodies..

Will I be going wrong anywhere with the 550D? What I've understood from reading reviews is that it has a bit of tech borrowed from the 7D [unless I'm terribly wrong with understanding]. I cannot afford the EOS 50D and I'm not sure about the 40D [wonder if I'd have the 'perceived need' itch for a 550D in a few months/year, if I consider the 40D now].

Can you help me put this 'inside-my-mind' battle to rest, please, so I can buy with confidence and never have to worry about the decision later? I truly appreciate any help on this.
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Tanveer, thanks. But I think the 40D has a 10mp if I remember right from a review i read last week. Anyway [scratching head time again].

Will I be going wrong anywhere with the 550D?
If you want Video the 550D is better for just plain photography I'd take the 40D (I use one).

The 40D is more rugged, faster to shoot, and has more room for my hands (with a BG2EN is fits just right).

Anything above 6MP is academic unless you are making prints larger than 8x11.
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40D is the big daddy to 400D, even though it only has 10MP, its one heck of a cam
This sensor has very low noise and excellent dynamic range.
Sorry I mistakenly mentioned it to be 12MP
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If you want Video the 550D is better for just plain photography I'd take the 40D (I use one).

The 40D is more rugged, faster to shoot, and has more room for my hands (with a BG2EN is fits just right).

Anything above 6MP is academic unless you are making prints larger than 8x11.
I wasn't too keen on the video recording aspect, but then I figured that with high capacity fast memory card, I can make good the video feature from 550D and probably won't have to invest [later] on a camcorder. At this moment, I'm not too sure about how much of the fullHD video shooting option I'd put to use. Definitely, I'm not into printing photos in large sizes either.

Hmmm... [oh god!]. Let me find out if Jayesh can get new 40D piece or how much a used piece costs.

Btw, Navin, I'll be down at Mumbai for atleast 10 days, from the 18th of May. If you/your friend don't need an urgent delivery of the 1000D/450D cam that you're/your friend is buying, I don't mind carrying it over for you from Jayesh to there. Let me know if you need that help [would be happy to meet you too].

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40D is the big daddy to 400D, even though it only has 10MP, its one heck of a cam
This sensor has very low noise and excellent dynamic range.
Sorry I mistakenly mentioned it to be 12MP
That's no problem, Tanveer. Ok, bottom line then: will the 550D's 'image quality' be equal to or better than the 40D's in any way? I think that single response can help me decide my purchase. If 550D's image quality will equal or come close to 40D's i'll buy the 550D. If 40D's image quality will run circles around 550D's then I'll try my best to get a new or sparingly used 40D [and get good lenses]..

But I think I'll also try to get a feel of the 40D [haven't held one]. Like Navin mentioned, I want to be at ease with the body and the camera should fit me ergonomically too.

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+1 to Navin.

The only advantage of the 500D over the 40D (I found) is in filling up HDD space. Those RAW files really eat up space.
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TSK - how is your new UWA lens doing? Please post some pics and a review, would you recommend the Tamron 10-22?
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Sorry Jayesh Associates and Negotiators Inc. I changed my boat and got my things today !

After 3 months of reading reviews, cross checking various brands, features, sellers, retailers and chewing the brain of everyone around the forums, I have settled for Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 EX DC Macro from RK (Jayesh couldnt commit a date of stock). I think HW is the one who mentioned about this piece of beautiful glass. I was almost finalising on Tamron 17-50 2.8, also considering the Sigma 17-70 2.8-4. But atlast I believe I have got the best piece for my purpose.
I also got Marumi UV filters for 67mm and 72mm.

Quotes as of today for the group's reference:

D90 body 34k
D300 body 65k
500D kit 36.5
550D kit 44.5
1000D kit 23

He will do little bit of rounding if the order is confirmed. Until then its a daily fluctuation, there is no fixed quote more than a day.

I also visited Mr.Vinod at Burma bazar as I was around the area, there is hardly a difference of 200 to 400 rupees which doesnt give a reason to go to a grey outlet than dealing with established people like RK or Jayesh.
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I also got Marumi UV filters for 67mm and 72mm.
Suggestion: Check out your lens result with this filter and without.
I'll be waiting for your reviews.
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