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Old 4th June 2010, 18:56   #4156
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LOL, you ask this.

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2) Cost of both is more or less the same on eBay (when purchased with B&W)
and you expect us to understand this.

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Regarding the second question, I wanted to ask, does it make sence going in for a P&S and DSLR is available at the same price.
frankly, it's like comparing a manual gear bike and an automatic scooter. price is not the only factor in making a choice right? you need to evaluate your needs and make a decision based on that.

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The camera should be easy to use, as sometimes, my wife would also use it, if I am driving.
you can probably give it to her in the auto mode. Wives can be tricky, mine doesn't even use a pocketable P&S .
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Can you explain what tilt-shift is? Hearing it for the 2nd time, but I don't know what it is [I understand long zoom, macro etc].

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Tilt-shift photography is a technique used to create 'miniature' looks of real world. Technically, a very shallow DOF is simulated on a scenery or a wide angle picture so that it looks like it is the photograph of a scaled down version of the real world. You can google for some images to understand.

I have created this effect using PP, but don't know how to achieve this with the lens adjustments. It is called tilt-shift because there are these two types of movements done to simulate this effect.

Tilt - tilting the lens w.r.t. to the image plane
Shift - shifting the lens parallel to the image plane

Here's a picture with tilt-shift effect given using PP (by me) Not so realistic, but hope it gives some idea.


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Thank you navin, amit, HW and clevermax.

@amit, sorry if that has hurt you. i was reflecting on my thoughts. i have decided to go in for the 55-250 IS, in the long end, if i am using a tripod, which i am planning to buy, i shall just turn the IS off. i hope the 250mm range is good enough though. that is a major concern.

the speedlite 270EX is going for some where aroung 6k at smartshoppers, is that a good price?

picking up the 55-250 for 10500 with B&W.

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Thank you navin, amit, HW and clevermax.

@amit, sorry if that has hurt you
. i was reflecting on my thoughts. i have decided to go in for the 55-250 IS, in the long end, if i am using a tripod, which i am planning to buy, i shall just turn the IS off. i hope the 250mm range is good enough though. that is a major concern.
why should it hurt me I am not Sigma distributor, Just stated the facts its a 50mm vs IS choice and choice is yours. Since you are inclined to 55-250 IS you should go ahead and buy that's all.
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Can you explain what tilt-shift is? Hearing it for the 2nd time, but I don't know what it is [I understand long zoom, macro etc].
tilt shift lenses are also called perspective control lenses this link explains it better than I can
Perspective control lens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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the speedlite 270EX is going for some where aroung 6k
picking up the 55-250 for 10500 with B&W.
both prices are fair. The 270X is a compact flash - killer for a G11 user for example where a 430 or 580 would be too much flash on too small a camera. If you can afford it get the 430 but the 270 is not a bad flash and excellent VFM.
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Finally I am compromising between D60 (present body) and D300s (my wishlist DSLR since 2 months) to a D90 as of now. The reasons are below:

1) D90 prices have come down (body is varying between 34 to 36 since 2 months)
2) Features are almost the same to D300 and D300s with few exceptions
3) Nikon has stopped D300 and might do the same with D300s too, hint through reliable importers.
4) My needs of a new body is all met by D90
5) Not worth spending more money as I dont have any commercial plans
6) A daily carry around purpose is more practical with D90 than other heavy bodies

Now the decision almost made and waiting for the store pick up, I would like to know from other D90 users here, what memory card do you guys use ? I shoot RAW 90% of the time and a single day photo outing scores above 300 RAW images on an average. Since D90 has video, I think a 4GB card may not be enough, so waiting for some suggestions. Thanks in advance.
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Finally I am compromising between D60 (present body) and D300s (my wishlist DSLR since 2 months) to a D90 as of now. The reasons are below:


Now the decision almost made and waiting for the store pick up, I would like to know from other D90 users here, what memory card do you guys use ? I shoot RAW 90% of the time and a single day photo outing scores above 300 RAW images on an average. Since D90 has video, I think a 4GB card may not be enough, so waiting for some suggestions. Thanks in advance.
I use "SanDisk 8 GB Extreme III (SDHC) Memory Card". Costs around $30
What lenses do you use?
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SJ, thanks for the quick response. I was thinking of the same 8GB Extreme III. Class 6 is the common choice right ?

Presently my bag has Sigma 18-50 f/2.8, Nikon 35mm f/1.8, Nikon 70-300 VR and Tamron 90 f/2.8. Hope thats enough for a life-time !!
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SJ, thanks for the quick response. I was thinking of the same 8GB Extreme III. Class 6 is the common choice right ?

Presently my bag has Sigma 18-50 f/2.8, Nikon 35mm f/1.8, Nikon 70-300 VR and Tamron 90 f/2.8. Hope thats enough for a life-time !!
Yes I use class 6. You really need fast card like this for continuous shots.

Don't you have plans for a wide lens (like Tokina 11-16mm)?
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So far never thought of a wide lens may be because I havent used the 18mm itself to its full potential. I am sure my present bag can keep me busy for an year or more.
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Yesterday went to Chandni Chowk to my camera guy along with my friend. He wanted to upgrade his Canon 40D to a 5D MK II body.

After a bit of negotiations and being his customer for ages got this deal:

Canon 5D MK II - Rs. 103,000/-

Canon 40D buy back - Rs. 29,000/-

Paid the difference of Rs. 74000/-. Now my friend is a proud owner of:

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Now the urge to upgrade my Nikon D300 to a D3 is getting stronger. Torn between buying a 17~35 F/2.8 or upgrading to a D3..

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Now the decision almost made and waiting for the store pick up, I would like to know from other D90 users here, what memory card do you guys use ? I shoot RAW 90% of the time and a single day photo outing scores above 300 RAW images on an average. Since D90 has video, I think a 4GB card may not be enough, so waiting for some suggestions. Thanks in advance.
Buy a 16 GB class 6 , or 32 GB class 6 , If you are not concerned with brand you can go for "Silicon Power" and buy it on e-bay.
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Finally I am compromising between D60 (present body) and D300s (my wishlist DSLR since 2 months) to a D90 as of now. ......
Congratulations. D90 is a fantastic camera!! I have been advocating people(who are buying a DSLR for photography!!) for the last two months or so as the prices have come down. Its fast at auto-focus, bigger viewfinder (penta-prism!!), built-in AF motor and yeah the video option in it!!! Congratulations once again.
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Tilt-shift photography is a technique used to create 'miniature' looks of real world. Technically, a very shallow DOF is simulated on a scenery or a wide angle picture so that it looks like it is the photograph of a scaled down version of the real world. You can google for some images to understand.

I have created this effect using PP, but don't know how to achieve this with the lens adjustments. It is called tilt-shift because there are these two types of movements done to simulate this effect.

Tilt - tilting the lens w.r.t. to the image plane
Shift - shifting the lens parallel to the image plane

Here's a picture with tilt-shift effect given using PP (by me) Not so realistic, but hope it gives some idea.

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tilt shift lenses are also called perspective control lenses this link explains it better than I can
Perspective control lens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Clevermax and Navin, thanks for the explanation and the links. I'll read more to understand better.

Clevermax, yes your image pretty much displayed how the Tilt-Shift works. They all seem like miniature images. Very 'wow' types.


One other question then. What kind of photographers, or for what kind of photography would tilt-shift lenses be used. What application has use of miniature like photos? Advertising? What else?

Edit: I just thought; Tilt-Shift lenses are used for architectural photography, perhaps? But then, would the miniature like photos actually be useful?

Thanks
aK

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Now the urge to upgrade my Nikon D300 to a D3 is getting stronger. Torn between buying a 17~35 F/2.8 or upgrading to a D3..
I'd suggest that you stick with the same body and buy the lens now.

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Clevermax and Navin, thanks for the explanation and the links. I'll read more to understand better.

Clevermax, yes your image pretty much displayed how the Tilt-Shift works. They all seem like miniature images. Very 'wow' types.

One other question then. What kind of photographers, or for what kind of photography would tilt-shift lenses be used. What application has use of miniature like photos? Advertising? What else?

Edit: I just thought; Tilt-Shift lenses are used for architectural photography, perhaps? But then, would the miniature like photos actually be useful?

Thanks
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You're welcome mate. I don't think tilt-shift photography is of much use in architectural photography, They show very shallow DOF anyway, so may be most of the structure won't be in perfect focus at all. For me, they are interesting to see, and some has that wow factor, that's it. They may be good for some fancy ad stuff by the way..

Enjoy some fabulous tilt-shift pictures here.

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