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Old 2nd October 2011, 16:53   #8521
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Since you said you have being reading about 4/3rd a lot, I thought you would know it refers to the aspect ratio...... You need to decide on your photography philosophy....
Aspect ratio part is clear to me but not having much idea about the differences between each format available right now, as we have plenty. Photography philosophy is almost clear (never intended commercial aspect past or present). Going light is the present target and I am sure I will come up with something that is a balance between weight, quality and portability. Not in a hurry too.
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... if I had another year I would have bought your gear Shaju. Crap. In my case, I doubt if I will ever go EVIL / 4/3rds as my hands are way too big. In any case, I carry along not more than three lenses. The 50mm being one of them, the number of lenses that I carry is just two.
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Therefore, first decide why you want to shoot photographs. Then the right gear will come to mind. I don't think you need any technical help. If you are unable figure out why you are shooting, then you will keep moving from body to body, lens to lens, system to system... not realizing your real problem lies somewhere else.
Decide why you what to shoot, then decide what you want to shoot and decide where you will do most of your shooting.

This will help decide the system and lenses you need most. A body is just a recpetor for what is first "seen" by the brain and goes through the lens. Almost every SLR-sized camera out there is more capable that most of us are. Besides bodies devalue faster than lenses anyway so it always makes sense to first decide on the lenses and then choose the body that suits the lenses you will use most for what you want to shoot, in the conditions you will be shooting in.

I have seen Rudra shoot with a Canon S90 and the pictures were fantastic.

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Decide why you what to shoot, then decide what you want to shoot and decide where you will do most of your shooting.
What?



I think we also reach a state of gadget fatigue. Which is why we change phones as well.
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Happy to show my ignorance about these terms and numbers, atleast someone would give some free advises on how to go ahead
As a frustrated 4/3 (not m4/3) user i should warn you that, pro-quality 4/3 lenses can be very expensive with not many options and they aren't light-weight either.
Also, 4/3 seems to have hit the end of the road...with Olympus having no solid road map beyond E-5. "Is E-5 the end of 4/3?" is a very popular topic in 4/3 forums.

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As a frustrated 4/3 (not m4/3) user i should warn you that, pro-quality 4/3 lenses can be very expensive with not many options and they aren't light-weight either.
For our requirements, we will never need pro-quality or super high grade. But high-grade will suit our perfectly. Check the MSRP price here:

E-System Lenses

I have 5 items out of 7 from the high-grade collections.

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Also, 4/3 seems to have hit the end of the road...with Olympus having no solid road map beyond E-5. "Is E-5 the end of 4/3?" is a very popular topic in 4/3 forums.
This is happening because their m4/3 lineup is cannibalizing the 4/3 market. Since they could never beat Canon/Nikon in popularity in the dSLR world, it looks like they decided to make their killing in the EVIL world. If they come out with some killer fast lenses for m4/3, then their strangle hold on EVIL market share would be unbeatable. Right now anything can happen in the EVIL market.
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Decide why you what to shoot, then decide what you want to shoot and decide where you will do most of your shooting.....
Navin da, I am yet to find the answers for all three Ws When I look back, almost every field is covered with the curiosity of learning, some of them just for a feel of what it is. But one thing is clear to me, I will be happy with a 20mm, 50mm 1.4 or 1.8 and a 100mm 2.8 (FX equivalent). No more interest in zooms and heavy stuff.

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As a frustrated 4/3 (not m4/3) user i should warn you that, pro-quality 4/3 lenses can be very expensive with not many options and they aren't light-weight either........
Thanks for the warning, I am not particular about 4/3rds, but going light is the priority. Sony NEX-7 looks really neat and feature packed. It might be available in stores only by November. Pro quality lenses are not in the wish list anyway.

I will be printing a lot of wall paper kind images in the future, so higher mega pixel will be an added priority which NEX-7 gives with 24 MP APSC sensor in a magnesium alloy body.
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But one thing is clear to me, I will be happy with a 20mm, 50mm 1.4 or 1.8 and a 100mm 2.8 (FX equivalent). No more interest in zooms and heavy stuff.


Thanks for the warning, I am not particular about 4/3rds, but going light is the priority. Sony NEX-7 looks really neat and feature packed. It might be available in stores only by November. Pro quality lenses are not in the wish list anyway.

I will be printing a lot of wall paper kind images in the future, so higher mega pixel will be an added priority which NEX-7 gives with 24 MP APSC sensor in a magnesium alloy body.
If you are going the micro four-thirds way, for the above requirements I'd suggest: Panasonic G3 (GH2 is budget permits) + 7-14mm + 25mm f0.95 (no, it's not as expensive) + Olympus 45mm f1.8. That should give you a pretty decent and light weight combination.

As far as Sony Nex-7 goes, it's a wonderful camera. The only thing that bothers me right now is that there are not a lot of native lenses out there that you could use. On the other hand, if you're okay manual focusing, you can get a lot of legacy lenses for cheap. Over the past year, I have acquired some wonderful legacy lenses and I must admit, I couldn't be happier with the deals I got.

EDIT: On the other hand, a good P&S like the Fuji X100 also might be a good choice if you don't need as many focal length options. I have a strong feeling that eventually I'll end up buying that for my day to day/street shooting.

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Navin da, I am yet to find the answers for all three Ws When I look back, almost every field is covered with the curiosity of learning, some of them just for a feel of what it is. But one thing is clear to me, I will be happy with a 20mm, 50mm 1.4 or 1.8 and a 100mm 2.8 (FX equivalent). No more interest in zooms and heavy stuff.


Thanks for the warning, I am not particular about 4/3rds, but going light is the priority. Sony NEX-7 looks really neat and feature packed. It might be available in stores only by November. Pro quality lenses are not in the wish list anyway.

I will be printing a lot of wall paper kind images in the future, so higher mega pixel will be an added priority which NEX-7 gives with 24 MP APSC sensor in a magnesium alloy body.
If you want some thing small and light, and are not very bothered about Telephoto end, your best investment will be in the Leica M9. I know it is extremely expensive, but the USP is that it is unbelievably light, the lenses designed fifty years ago still work and new lenses appear regularly, so I guess that your investment in lenses will be protected. From all the reviews I have read on Luminous Landscape and GetDPI sites, M9 is the best bet for travel and street photography. And it is a full frame sensor!

Leica M9 as Landscape Camera? -- Six Months Later
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.....Panasonic G3 (GH2 is budget permits)....Sony Nex-7 ........Fuji X100 also might be a good choice......
All three are in my list of considerations. Taking a slow and steady mode in the final choice. It will take time as we dont have a G3 or NEX7 to feel in hand.

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.....your best investment will be in the Leica M9......
Thats an indirect advise to get me kicked out of my own house Thank you ! Google is accessible to everyone in the family right now ! Nobody bothers when we make money out of this hobby, but this is a different scenario !
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hey friends, i am planning to get my first DSLR, the shortlisted models are Canon D550 w kit and Nikon D5100 with kit, review wise Nikon has an edge whereas my cousin has many canon lenses which will be good for me (will save money on lenses) If required, since i feel that for me as an novice the current lenses will be good enough,

please suggest which one to go for and is it better to buy it in India or US, any experience?
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The D5100 has a slight edge in IQ over the 550D, however, since you have stated that your cousin will let you borrow his Canon lenses, there's no reason to go for the Nikon.

Apart from the above, Canon has, IMHO, a better (price and quality) lineup of lenses. Bodies in the segment you're buying at are replaced every year, however, lenses last for a long time.
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Has anyone used a Nissin Di466 flash? I am looking at this flash for my Panasonic LX5. Is there a Panasonic compatible Yongnuo flash available that I can compare it against with?

I see that the Nissin Di466 is available at $139 on B&H. Is it available at a cheaper rate anywhere else?

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I will be happy with a 20mm, 50mm 1.4 or 1.8 and a 100mm 2.8 (FX equivalent). No more interest in zooms and heavy stuff.
I have bought exactly the same stuff, 50mm 1.8, 100mm 2.8 and for wide angle I have 16-35 2.8. These three lenses are more than enough for my all photography needs. 100mm 2.8 I called it magic lens , and my favorite, it does wonder for portrait photography.

I also own 55-250 zoom lens, but I found very rare use of it. I may will use it for my Kanha Tiger Reserve trip that I am going to do in first week of November. But I wanted to use my 100mm 2.8 for most of the time. I can not interchange the lenses during Safari, so carrying 2 DSLR for this trip. One DSLR will wear 55-250 and another 100mm 2.8.
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I have bought exactly the same stuff, 50mm 1.8, 100mm 2.8 and for wide angle I have 16-35 2.8.....
I am retaining my D700, 20mm and 50mm until my upgrade product is available in stores (mostly Sony NEX-7 as of now). I had 16 items for sale in the first ad and the entire 13 have gone in 48 hours ! So I find its wise to hold the body and primes until I have my new unit in hand than go idle for next 2 months. (Indirectly also want to hear from the first batch of NEX7 owners !! )

Wished and tried to get a proper macro lens since 6 months (Tamron 90mm was with me in 2010) and my only choices were Nikon 105 2.8 VR and Sigma 150 2.8 both of which are out of stock for a long time. I had even paid for it to my in-law who went to US for a 3 day flying but came back with the "not available" reply. I did not collect the money back because he went again twice in the same month but not lucky

Then about the filters. Friends might remember I had discussed about it and finally bought Hoya Pro1D CPL and ND16 3 months back. It was not available in India and had to get it from B&H US and by hand to India. Plan was to stack them together on a 20mm but gave vignetting. That was a mistake. I could have got the Hitek or Lee basic unit which can go with any brand or make or size (100x150mm). They mostly retain their value because its flexible with all brands and sizes (adapters are cheap to get from many brands). Lesson learnt: I will never ever buy a screw-in type filter !!
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