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Old 8th March 2013, 05:17   #11506
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Canon releases a new sensor for probably the 1dc,

oh my god at the demo video and low light performance.

http://www.canon.com/news/2013/mar04e.html
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I am getting nikon d7000 today, i was thinking of taking only body and tamron 17-50 lens without VC. So nikon users can anybody tell me is it worth taking d7000 with kit lens 18-105 or tamron option will be good. Which lens will be good for everyday use which can take good pictures under low light as well. Thanks in advance.
Why not use the 50mm f/1.8? Great lens, most VFM for low light too.

Btw, the new Nikon 80-400mm AF-S has very interesting MTF charts, especially at 400mm. Should be significantly better than the 70-200mm f/2.8 VR2 + 2X TC III combo. Waiting eagerly for the first reviews.

On a D7100, one can reach 800mm in the 1.3X mode. Great news for folks like me - 'budget' wildlife and nature shooters.

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On a D7100, one can reach 800mm in the 1.3X mode. Great news for folks like me - 'budget' wildlife and nature shooters.
IMO the D7100 + the new 80-400 (and a TC1.4, if you feel like it) should be the ideal kit for your kind of use i.e. in WF parks.

With a TC you get the so called reach of 840mm on DX @ the long end. Plenty enough..but that will slow down focusing big time.

As for the D400 that's supposedly going to be introduced later this year (another pie in the sky) - I don't believe that it will offer too much over the D7100 except weather sealing and possibly faster FPS. There just may be a better/newer focusing module.

Not that the D7100 will be a slouch in any of these areas. But if the D400's 'key forecasted features' are a must have for you then by all means do wait.

Cheers!

PS - I'd suggest waiting for 2-3 months to see if any issues with the D7100 are reported. Nikon's QC record in the past 12-14 months has been less than satisfactory.

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On a D7100, one can reach 800mm in the 1.3X mode. Great news for folks like me - 'budget' wildlife and nature shooters.
You can shoot at 1200mm with a Sony A77 ,70-400G and 2x TC + 1.5x crop mode it has and the entire combine price of A77body + 70-400G lens + 2x TC is cheaper then just Nikon 80-400 lens and whats more its quieter and shoots at 12fps with full AF.

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Hey guys,I'm new to photography and im thinking of buying a entry level dslr.

Which would you recommend?
Nikon D3100 or Sony Alpha SLT 37k?
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With a TC you get the so called reach of 840mm on DX @ the long end. Plenty enough..but that will slow down focusing big time.

As for the D400 that's supposedly going to be introduced later this year (another pie in the sky) - I don't believe that it will offer too much over the D7100 except weather sealing and possibly faster FPS. There just may be a better/newer focusing module.
With a 400mm reach (600 mm DX, 800mm with 1.3X), I don't think I will need more. I don't want to combine a TC with a zoom lens.

FPS of D7100 is ok (6 - but more the better, obviously), and weather sealing is adequate. Only issue is the buffer - sustained shooting - for wildlife action shots. Waiting to read reviews on what is the actual sustained shooting rate with good cards (I bought a Sandisk Extreme Pro 32GB sometime back).

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You can shoot at 1200mm with a Sony A77 ,70-400G and 2x TC + 1.5x crop mode it has and the entire combine price of A77body + 70-400G lens + 2x TC is cheaper then just Nikon 80-400 lens and whats more its quieter and shoots at 12fps with full AF.
Naah, I think I will remain faithful to Nikon unless I go over to the Canon camp (7D Mk 2). I am thinking of upgrading from the D90 to the D7100 or D400, and I think the AF and low light performance of these will be much better than the A77's.

But why do you recommend 2X TC with a f/4-5.6 lens? f/11 will be close to useless during dawn and dusk, and a zoom lens will be soft with a 2X TC. And one will have to do manual focus.

Btw, good stalking technique is sometimes worth many $$$ in reach (though one can't get that sharpness and bokeh with non-pro lenses). Cross-posting a photo that I clicked with my 70-300mm (at 300mm) - this bird is 2-2.5 inches long. Photo cropped.

Problem is, I don't think I care to stalk elephants and big cats
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Nikon D3100 or Sony Alpha SLT 37k?
If you happen to choose Nikon , I will suggest the 5100 instead of the 3100.
I bought a 3100 but I have a feeling it would have been better if would picked up the 5100.
It has got a better censor than 3100 and also HDR , if I'm not wrong.
Hope it helps
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Naah, I think I will remain faithful to Nikon unless I go over to the Canon camp (7D Mk 2). I am thinking of upgrading from the D90 to the D7100 or D400, and I think the AF and low light performance of these will be much better than the A77's.

But why do you recommend 2X TC with a f/4-5.6 lens? f/11 will be close to useless during dawn and dusk, and a zoom lens will be soft with a 2X TC. And one will have to do manual focus.

Btw, good stalking technique is sometimes worth many $$$ in reach (though one can't get that sharpness and bokeh with non-pro lenses). Cross-posting a photo that I clicked with my 70-300mm (at 300mm) - this bird is 2-2.5 inches long. Photo cropped.

Problem is, I don't think I care to stalk elephants and big cats
I doubt there will be a D400 camera. 7Dmk2 sensor will not be able match the sony/toshiba sensors.But the A77 is decent in low light not as good as the D7100 but definitely as good as the 7D.But the Sony is a bargain since the entire setup will cost just under the price of the nikon lens.

Yes good stalking skills is definitely better for birds but not for wild animals.


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Hey guys,I'm new to photography and im thinking of buying a entry level dslr.

Which would you recommend?
Nikon D3100 or Sony Alpha SLT 37k?
Easily the A37 faster burst rate,more AF points ,tilt screen,much bigger VF and in body motor.

You could also consider mirrorless cameras.

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I doubt there will be a D400 camera. 7Dmk2 sensor will not be able match the sony/toshiba sensors.But the A77 is decent in low light not as good as the D7100 but definitely as good as the 7D.But the Sony is a bargain since the entire setup will cost just under the price of the nikon lens.
Nikon would be stupid to not have a D400. The artificially limited D7100 buffer and the lower FPS strongly hints at a D400 arriving in Q3. Nikon wouldn't leave the field open to Canon for a high end DX.

The 7D Mk2 is expcted to break some new ground (as per a Canon VP), and is likely to be a mini 1DX. If they update the 100-400L, then this combo would be a great kit or non-pro nature/wildlife photographers (on a budget) - just like the D400 + AF-S 80-400mm combo.

I am hoping that the D400 turns out to be a mini-D4. Just like the D4, but with a crop sensor and with the D300 build. And yes, high MP - say 18-20 - will be useful since I can crop a bit.

Agree about the Sony kit being a bargain. If I were starting out, I would have looked at it seriously.
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If you happen to choose Nikon , I will suggest the 5100 instead of the 3100.
I bought a 3100 but I have a feeling it would have been better if would picked up the 5100.
It has got a better censor than 3100 and also HDR , if I'm not wrong.
Hope it helps
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I've just increased my budget to 35k. Can i get d3200 for under 35k? How does it compare with Sony Alpha SLT 137k and Canon EOS 1100D and Nikon D5100?
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I've just increased my budget to 35k. Can i get d3200 for under 35k? How does it compare with Sony Alpha SLT 137k and Canon EOS 1100D and Nikon D5100?
In that budget, if you are a beginner, a great way to start to learn photography as opposed to equipment is to go with the d3100, which is a great deal now. Around 21K. Spend the rest of the budget for a Nikon 35 1.8G fixed focus lens, and you might also get a UV filter in for lens protection. Zoom by taking a few steps forward for telephoto, a few steps back for wide angle. And for telephoto, you can always crop in post processing.

The lens will give you a normal view on the 3100, and it will be a long time before your capability outgrows that of the camera lens combination.

For flash, the SB400 is brilliant for the money. With this camera, lens and flash combination you have the equipment to take pictures in almost every situation you will encounter as a starter. That will take the total spend to around 40k though.

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I am looking to enter the DSLR bandwagon pretty soon. Currently I am using the Canon SX10 prosumer. Its been with me since 2009. I am going with the entry level DSLR. Please suggest me between canon 1100 and nikon 3100.
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I am looking to enter the DSLR bandwagon pretty soon. Currently I am using the Canon SX10 prosumer. Its been with me since 2009. I am going with the entry level DSLR. Please suggest me between canon 1100 and nikon 3100.
Both are really good, I believe canon weights little less. If you are looking for more features then it is Nikon.
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I am looking to enter the DSLR bandwagon pretty soon. Currently I am using the Canon SX10 prosumer. Its been with me since 2009. I am going with the entry level DSLR. Please suggest me between canon 1100 and nikon 3100.
If you plan to be a bit more serious about photography I would suggest one in the range of Canon 550D/600D etc.

Because once you go up the learning curve suddenly you would feel limited by the ISO performance of the camera. Do think on that aspect and decide.
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If you plan to be a bit more serious about photography I would suggest one in the range of Canon 550D/600D etc.

Because once you go up the learning curve suddenly you would feel limited by the ISO performance of the camera. Do think on that aspect and decide.
FYI the D3100 still has a better sensor and better ISO performance then the 550/600/650D but i believe canon is better in video.

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