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Old 27th February 2014, 13:27   #12526
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Yes and no. In terms of filling the frame for distant objects in the same manner as the 160mm on FX will, and maximum aperture available for shooting, it is the same. Safe handholding speeds will also be the same.
DOF will not be as shallow, obviously, so no, to that extent only.
Handholding 'speed' or handholdability would change b/w a 16MP FX and a 16MP DX.

A DX camera will have higher pixel density, so camera shake will be magnified a bit. Though it is not a very big factor if one is good at handholding.
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Handholding 'speed' or handholdability would change b/w a 16MP FX and a 16MP DX.

A DX camera will have higher pixel density, so camera shake will be magnified a bit. Though it is not a very big factor if one is good at handholding.
Agreed, it will make a marginal difference. But even this goes away in the 610/7000 use because of the 24mp sensor on the 610.
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Experts! I need some advice here.

Out in the market yet again for finally graduating to an SLR. The budget is under 30k and I am tempted by Canon 1100d which is 25k including 18-55 and 55-250 dual lense set. Should I pick this up? Or should I rather go with a Nikon 5100 which alone is 25+ k, without the additional 55-250 lense.
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Experts! I need some advice here.

Out in the market yet again for finally graduating to an SLR. The budget is under 30k and I am tempted by Canon 1100d which is 25k including 18-55 and 55-250 dual lense set. Should I pick this up? Or should I rather go with a Nikon 5100 which alone is 25+ k, without the additional 55-250 lense.
Get a Nikon D3300. If you shop carefully you will get it for around 33K with lense. It has a 24MP sensor, 60pHD movie and an excellent DR.
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Experts! I need some advice here.

Out in the market yet again for finally graduating to an SLR. The budget is under 30k and I am tempted by Canon 1100d which is 25k including 18-55 and 55-250 dual lense set. Should I pick this up? Or should I rather go with a Nikon 5100 which alone is 25+ k, without the additional 55-250 lense.
I won't suggest that. If you are serious about getting into it, very soon you will realise that you have outgrown he needs of 1100D. Use the 30-35K budget to get the 550/600/650D (Any of them). Also don't be in a hurry for the 55-250. Get to use the kit lens first. Later get the lens based on what you shoot.
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I won't suggest that. If you are serious about getting into it, very soon you will realise that you have outgrown he needs of 1100D. Use the 30-35K budget to get the 550/600/650D (Any of them). Also don't be in a hurry for the 55-250. Get to use the kit lens first. Later get the lens based on what you shoot.
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Get a Nikon D3300. If you shop carefully you will get it for around 33K with lense. It has a 24MP sensor, 60pHD movie and an excellent DR.
Thanks for the inputs Ampere, Aroy! I have dropped the 1100D as per your suggestions.

Nikon 3300 or Canon 600D would go bit out of budget. Would you recommend a Nikon 5100 or 3200? Both are about 25k INR on Flipkart, including 18-55.
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Nikon 3300 or Canon 600D would go bit out of budget. Would you recommend a Nikon 5100 or 3200? Both are about 25k INR on Flipkart, including 18-55.

Why is 600D out of budget? You said under 30K.
Flipkart has it for 29K.
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Why is 600D out of budget? You said under 30K.
Flipkart has it for 29K.
Amazon has 600D + 18-135 kit for around 41K.
I think this is very good deal, as 18-135 mm lens is much better than kit lens and really versatile compared to cheapo kit lens.
In my opinion, even if you have to stratch a budget a bit, go for a more useful lens than kit lens

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Amazon has 600D + 18-135 kit for around 41K.
I think this is very good deal, as 18-135 mm lens is much better than kit lens and really versatile compared to cheapo kit lens.
In my opinion, even if you have to stratch a budget a bit, go for a more useful lens than kit lens
I agree. But I would still say let him start with the basic kit lens. Though it may not be all that great, but is the best lens to learn. And then later expand to lens based on what he needs. From that point of view, 18-55 is still worth it. I do agree that once we graduate to other lens, kit-lens is not all used again. But in the first years of learning it is an able companion for the price.
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If budget is an issue and you are not too sure whether you will continue with the hobby, I would suggest go for a used camera. If you want to sell it off later and upgrade to something more contemporary or give up the hobby altogether you don't lose anything. Check out JJMehta's used gear forum. Lots of Bangalore sellers are there.
Another piece of unsolicited advice, investment in good lenses hold their value over a long period of time. Investment in the body doesn't hold its value. Also, to make a good photograph out of a kit lens your post processing skills better be excellent.
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Thanks for the inputs Ampere, Aroy! I have dropped the 1100D as per your suggestions.

Nikon 3300 or Canon 600D would go bit out of budget. Would you recommend a Nikon 5100 or 3200? Both are about 25k INR on Flipkart, including 18-55.
Getting an older design DSLR is not worth it. I got my D3300 yesterday and it is a fantastic camera.
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Why is 600D out of budget? You said under 30K.
Flipkart has it for 29K.
Yes, just realized. I have been looking at some other listing. Thanks!

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Amazon has 600D + 18-135 kit for around 41K.
I think this is very good deal, as 18-135 mm lens is much better than kit lens and really versatile compared to cheapo kit lens.
In my opinion, even if you have to stratch a budget a bit, go for a more useful lens than kit lens

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Thanks JLS. Yes, like Ampere mentioned. I will for now stick only with the kit lens and invest in a good body. Will buy the next lens as I learn more on how to use them!

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Getting an older design DSLR is not worth it. I got my D3300 yesterday and it is a fantastic camera.
Congrats on your purchase. Out of my budget at 35k+

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If budget is an issue and you are not too sure whether you will continue with the hobby, I would suggest go for a used camera.
Thanks, however, I am a bit unlucky with 2nd hand or used stuff. I always tend to get the problematic ones. Will have to avoid this option as per my past experience.

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Thanks JLS. Yes, like Ampere mentioned. I will for now stick only with the kit lens and invest in a good body. Will buy the next lens as I learn more on how to use them!
Regarding 55-250, its a good lens for its price no doubt. And thanks to that price range its bundled along with the body and kit lens. But then lets say you get really interested in that focal range and realize you want a lens in that range. In that case the the 70-200 L makes a huge difference compared to 55-250. Of course I agree you also pay a lot. But then that's choice you make based on what you experience and what you need. Its an informed choice compared to the pricing based choice, which you make today.

Thats how, even I did not go for the 55-250, but learnt with kit. One year later I chose to buy 70-200 F4 IS L instead of 55-250. Thats' a decision which I have never regretted one bit! That lens amazes me every time I use it to snap.
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Getting an older design DSLR is not worth it. I got my D3300 yesterday and it is a fantastic camera.
The D3300 has a fantastic sensor. IMO much better than the 600D or equivalent sensors. But I am a Nikon guy so take my view with a pinch of salt

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Regarding 55-250, its a good lens for its price no doubt. And thanks to that price range its bundled along with the body and kit lens. But then lets say you get really interested in that focal range and realize you want a lens in that range. In that case the the 70-200 L makes a huge difference compared to 55-250. Of course I agree you also pay a lot. But then that's choice you make based on what you experience and what you need. Its an informed choice compared to the pricing based choice, which you make today.
Some of us had an idea of what we wanted when we moved to a DSLR. E.g. if one has been shooting extensively with a P&S, then one might know what genres one likes - and the leap to a DSLR is for IQ/AF/low light reasons.

Depends on what the OP wants, or whether he knows what he wants.
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Some of us had an idea of what we wanted when we moved to a DSLR. E.g. if one has been shooting extensively with a P&S, then one might know what genres one likes - and the leap to a DSLR is for IQ/AF/low light reasons.

Depends on what the OP wants, or whether he knows what he wants.
In fact all the more a reason why one should not rush with lenses. As you mentioned, I had no idea what I wanted. I did not have any interest in photography before I laid my hands on a DSLR.

Since I liked to see places, some of snaps with basic P&S turned out to be good (And yes I had taken no efforts to shoot them. Literally point and shoot!). Thats when some of the members (It was Chethan) who suggested I should try a DSLR. At that time I had no idea what I was getting into.
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