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Old 10th April 2006, 22:43   #1
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Default Windows running on Apple Macs? Now possible...

Apple (makers of the famous i-Pod) has declared that their laptops and desktops will officially offer Virtual Windows as a software integrated in the OS...so that more people who have the hang of Windows can use Macs.

I think this is bad news since I am really fond of the Mac, n dont want it to try to adjust to Windows...some OS it is far more superior to...

What do you guys say?
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Old 10th April 2006, 23:06   #2
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Would that mean... it'll run softwares written for windows?... if not.. then not really.. useful.
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Old 10th April 2006, 23:33   #3
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yes...it will...actually...it will run the entire Windows XP OS as a simulation in the Mac...all s/w, and settings and all.
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Good news for me......always wanted to get an iBook with windows!
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sounds really good!!! i guess i can finally go buy a mac then!
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ha ha this remindes me of a mail about apples new style laptop with invisible screen ,,, well this is what i'm talking about.








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Apple apparently will start offering its Macs with "Boot Camp" which allows you to load windows onto the mac.

I think its brilliant! One of the main reasons for their extremely limited market share is the lack of the windows OS.

MAC + Windows = Perfect. I know what my next laptop is going to be.

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.. But then.. whats the MAC about it?.. if its running windows?

I mean... its like replacing the Intel/AMD hardware with .. MAC hardware.

The main reason 'some' people liked MAC was b'coz of stability and less virusses. Both these attributes were b'coz of the OS and not the hardware.

Well, if MAC was to release its OS to run on the x86 hardware, then it'd be some compitition for Windows.

Having said that... I don't see new MAC sales going up b'coz of this move, though its a really valuable gift for existing MAC users.

The only 1 interesting point is.... your MAC now has 2 OSs... and you use windows for running windows specific softwares and MAC OS in routine.

am I missing something?
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The object of getting a Mac was to stay away from Windows. Now that Apple is using Intel chips and integrating Windows into their products how do they intend to diffrentiate themselves from TOshiba, Lenovo, and the their like?

One possible solution is to run Windows as a Shell and leave the OS X kernel alone. that could provide the stability of Mac with the convienence of Windows. If anyone can succesfully execute this cross-pollination it will be Apple. This will allow business users to use Windows Office at work and then switch to "Apple mode" at home.
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Whilst now I'm using Macs exclusively, I still require Windows for my office to run AutoCad. This will now solve my problem and now, I don't require two computers for everything. I was previously thinking of making my laptop a Sony Windows ones but just couldn't since my integration of files currently on my PowerBook is just too deep for me to make the move and I just wouldn't be comfortable, hence I bought a big black box.

Boot Camp is a dual boot solution, and not a Virtualization solution where you could run the OS under Mac OS X @ full processor speed. Look around the web, there are many benchmarks and all of them have said that equally equipped laptops/desktops have the same speed as Windows running on an Apple Computer.
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that means that the computer is vulnerable to windows issues when in "windows mode"? right?
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that means that the computer is vulnerable to windows issues when in "windows mode"? right?
Now since the MAC users are not used to frequent windows updates... antivirus updates.... they might just end up losing their MAC OS too... courtesy a windows virus like 'CIH'.
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The title of the topic is misleading.
Apple will now offer Native support to Windows XP SP2 OS via boot camp.

EDIT:OS X was always supporting Windows OS virtually with help of Virtual PC
This is a great move by apple which will surely increase their market share.

Here is a review of Boot camp from www.winsupersite.com

As for people saying point of getting mac was to stay away from windows,
Mac hardware is state of the art. Many people will buy it for hardware only.
You can use Windows for software which are not available for OS X.
There aren't enough games available for OS X.
It will help people in easier hassle free switch.

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Well, if MAC was to release its OS to run on the x86 hardware, then it'd be some competition for Windows.
Apple have always said they are hardware company.
By this move PC companies like Dell, HP should be very afraid.

Also don't forget it will save some major bucks for software companies as they will be able to test cross platform compatibility on a single machine.

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The object of getting a Mac was to stay away from Windows. Now that Apple is using Intel chips and integrating Windows into their products how do they intend to differentiate themselves from Toshiba, Lenovo, and the their like?
Toshiba, Lenovo don't support OS X.

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Now since the MAC users are not used to frequent windows updates... antivirus updates.... they might just end up losing their MAC OS too... courtesy a windows virus like 'CIH'.
Windows XP SP2 can not access OS X filesystem out of the box. Also since Windows won't be running once in OS X so windows viruses won't be executed in OS X

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It says that the OS running on the computer at the selected instance will use all the memory of the computer.

So, if Windows does get a virus indeed (which probably cannot go into the Mac since the Mac partition cannot be accessed from within Windows), does that mean that if c:(windows drive) needs to be formatted and something of the Mac OS X has been stored on the C: then all that will be lost too?

That kinda does not work in favour of the Mac...does it?
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It says that the OS running on the computer at the selected instance will use all the memory of the computer.
Like I said its native support.
Whatever selected OS will be using all resources.
It is same as dual booting. One OS runs at a time.

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So, if Windows does get a virus indeed (which probably cannot go into the Mac since the Mac partition cannot be accessed from within Windows), does that mean that if c:(windows drive) needs to be formatted and something of the Mac OS X has been stored on the C: then all that will be lost too?

That kinda does not work in favour of the Mac...does it?
If Mac files are stored in windows partition (which Mac can read/write) then after formatting yes all the files will be lost.
However no matter how crazy virus may be you can always log in from OS X & first copy files to other partition.
Also taking backup of data helps in times like these
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