Direct-To-Home television in India. Update DTH HD announced

ECM · 5th January 2007, 21:36

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Originally Posted by krazykul

hey, Am little late here givin my comments but i am fully satisfied with the services of DTH. i have a Dish TV connection for quite a long time and am fully satisfied with it.
Some advantages i feel are
1) Hve complete control over my connection unlike the cable provided by cable providers. Main issue
2) Picture and sound clarity cannot be compared with normal cable.
3) Regarding more than one TV in a house i believe they will give packages where you can have more that one STBs for a nominal price, instead of buying independent STBs and Card. I think Tata Sky has that facility but Dish TV hasn't tilll yet.

Pay just 100 Rs.(each)for next 4 connections for Dish TV in same home.For 5th regular package is applicable.

krazykul · 6th January 2007, 20:10

ECM, Thanks a lot for the info - I saw the flyer just yesterday after making the post for 100 Rs.(each) for next 4 connections. vbmenu_register("postmenu_349106", true);

namit · 8th January 2007, 13:07

Hi !!

Tata Sky has a 6 months free subscription offer till 10th of Jan so want to know if normal cable TV will go extinct and opting for CAS or DTH technology is mandatory ?

Thanks !!

aZa · 8th January 2007, 14:26

Tatasky Update :

Two days back while i was surfing T-BHP, my mom came and told me that she was getting a MSG on TV saying "No signal from Dish" so i checked the STB in my room and i was getting the same msg. So i immediately called up the tatasky helpline number and to my surprise the number 1904------ number was like busy for 2hrs or more. Eventually i gave up and went out for dinner. When i got back then i found the STB's working properly with 60-80% Signal.

Not getting through the helpline number was a real put off. Probably it was because of high number of new customers due to the CAS implementation in Delhi. Anyone else facing such a problem?

ECM · 8th January 2007, 18:06

Aza,we get DTH via geostationary satellites and once in 2 months they DRIFT from their normal route hence earth station uses booster rockets in such a way that they again comeback to their normal path,this is not a problem in your set but it is a normal phenomenon.Rest assure pal.

namit · 8th January 2007, 21:34

Hi !!

can someone please answer this for me -

Hi !!

Tata Sky has a 6 months free subscription offer till 10th of Jan so want to know if normal cable TV will go extinct and opting for CAS or DTH technology is mandatory ?

Thanks !!

aZa · 8th January 2007, 23:30

Hey thanx ECM, i've explained it to my mom also now since she is the power user of DTH!

@Namit : No Cable TV as we know will exist but you wont get any PAY CHANNELS if you dont have the Set Top BOX (STB). So if you dont purchase the STB (DTH or CAS) then you will still get channels but only FTA channels.

namit · 9th January 2007, 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by aZa

Hey thanx ECM, i've explained it to my mom also now since she is the power user of DTH!

@Namit : No Cable TV as we know will exist but you wont get any PAY CHANNELS if you dont have the Set Top BOX (STB). So if you dont purchase the STB (DTH or CAS) then you will still get channels but only FTA channels.

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Thanks AZA !!

But do you think that its the right time to go for it or should i wait for others like Airtel and REliance to come into competition.

Moreover do you think it woulkd be better to have DTH connection from cable operator bcoz that ways we can save on this initial investment of 7500/- for 2 connections with STB each ?

Please advice guys ... as Tata sky offer is valid only till tomorrow.

Thanks again !!

esteem_lover · 9th January 2007, 14:15

@namit : CAS means Conditional Access Service, which means your present cable wala who is happily giving you all of 120 channels for a meagere 100/- per month is going to scramble all the pay channels so that you cannot directly receive it on your TV. the other free channels however will continue to be receivable on your TV directly. If you want to watch pay channels like HBO, ESPN etc., you will need to buy a Set Top Box, nothing but a decoder to decode the scrambled channels. this stb is controlled by the main operator in his control room.
DTH means Direct to Home. that is without a cable. you receive the channels directly through a dish, bye bye cable wala. Even in DTH, DD has a setup that is FTA. Dishtv & Tata sky are the only DTH operators as of now. You can either get a STB from your cable wala or get a DTH from either of these companies. The costs involved for both are the same. the advantages in DTH are immense.

namit · 9th January 2007, 16:53

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

@namit : CAS means Conditional Access Service, which means your present cable wala who is happily giving you all of 120 channels for a meagere 100/- per month is going to scramble all the pay channels so that you cannot directly receive it on your TV. the other free channels however will continue to be receivable on your TV directly. If you want to watch pay channels like HBO, ESPN etc., you will need to buy a Set Top Box, nothing but a decoder to decode the scrambled channels. this stb is controlled by the main operator in his control room.
DTH means Direct to Home. that is without a cable. you receive the channels directly through a dish, bye bye cable wala. Even in DTH, DD has a setup that is FTA. Dishtv & Tata sky are the only DTH operators as of now. You can either get a STB from your cable wala or get a DTH from either of these companies. The costs involved for both are the same. the advantages in DTH are immense.

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Thanks Esteem lover !!

You explained it all.

Thanks again for all your effort and time.

esteem_lover · 9th January 2007, 17:20

You're welcome. been through the CAS maladie for the last 3 years here in chennai.

danlalan · 9th January 2007, 18:24

Just bought my set-top box from my cable wala...3800/- for a year(incl set-top box)
The best part is tht there are a lot of sports channels...THEY'VE EVEN GOT A MOTORS TV....
by the way if your watching tv and playing your ps 2..then be sure to get the splitter...your a/v wires from the ps2/dvd/set-top box connect here first then to your tv..

wolfinstein · 9th January 2007, 22:00

I got my Set-top box from the cableman, 2 box @ Rs 250 Each, Refundable Security, Rs.45 rent per month per box + Channel Charge+FTA Charge+Tax..All this plus 5 Years warranty on the box, Will write a small review tommorow..! I've seen both TATA Sky and Set-top Box and its not very different, TATA does have better Features though, but rest assured the CAS quality is not so very different..!
The DTH Technology is very advanced but its at a premium right now, I feel it should have been competitive with the CAS charges..!

GTO · 10th January 2007, 18:13

Okay guys, heres the update on my Tata-Sky.

1. Sat and configured the LCD all over again.
2. Rewired the Tata Sky box.
3. Tata-Sky guy came to configure some settings and to reposition the dish.

End result is that some channels are better. But few (i.e. all ZEE channels) are horrible and impossible to watch without straining the eyes.

Signal strength is 70%.

Quote:

Make sure you connect your DVD player to same AV input used by your STB.

Connected the DVD player to same AV, and it looks fabulous!

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This is a known problem with LCDs in case of Analog input when the scene has horizontal movement with vertical fixtures like buildings etc.,

Do the white/red/yellow wires mean its an analog?

Any more solutions?

Vid6639 · 10th January 2007, 19:29

White/red/yellow are RCA audio and video. they are analog inputs. the STB just decodes the signal and sends the unencrypted signal to the TV via those.

Your signal strength of 70% isn't that great. Generally 80% or more. How about the error rate. how much is that. Even that should be around 80%.

Also you can try getting the STB changed if nothing works to the HUMAX one which people say is a little better.

8th January 2007, 13:07	#168
namit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 339 Thanked: 20 Times	will normal cable TV become extinct. Hi !! Tata Sky has a 6 months free subscription offer till 10th of Jan so want to know if normal cable TV will go extinct and opting for CAS or DTH technology is mandatory ? Thanks !!

9th January 2007, 14:15	#174
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,533 Thanked: 387 Times View My Garage	@namit : CAS means Conditional Access Service, which means your present cable wala who is happily giving you all of 120 channels for a meagere 100/- per month is going to scramble all the pay channels so that you cannot directly receive it on your TV. the other free channels however will continue to be receivable on your TV directly. If you want to watch pay channels like HBO, ESPN etc., you will need to buy a Set Top Box, nothing but a decoder to decode the scrambled channels. this stb is controlled by the main operator in his control room. DTH means Direct to Home. that is without a cable. you receive the channels directly through a dish, bye bye cable wala. Even in DTH, DD has a setup that is FTA. Dishtv & Tata sky are the only DTH operators as of now. You can either get a STB from your cable wala or get a DTH from either of these companies. The costs involved for both are the same. the advantages in DTH are immense. Last edited by esteem_lover : 9th January 2007 at 14:18.

9th January 2007, 22:00	#178
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 12 Times	I got my Set-top box from the cableman, 2 box @ Rs 250 Each, Refundable Security, Rs.45 rent per month per box + Channel Charge+FTA Charge+Tax..All this plus 5 Years warranty on the box, Will write a small review tommorow..! I've seen both TATA Sky and Set-top Box and its not very different, TATA does have better Features though, but rest assured the CAS quality is not so very different..! The DTH Technology is very advanced but its at a premium right now, I feel it should have been competitive with the CAS charges..! Last edited by wolfinstein : 9th January 2007 at 22:03.

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6th January 2007, 20:10	#167
krazykul Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 18 Thanked: 0 Times	ECM, Thanks a lot for the info - I saw the flyer just yesterday after making the post for 100 Rs.(each) for next 4 connections. vbmenu_register("postmenu_349106", true);

8th January 2007, 14:26	#169
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,601 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	Tatasky Update : Two days back while i was surfing T-BHP, my mom came and told me that she was getting a MSG on TV saying "No signal from Dish" so i checked the STB in my room and i was getting the same msg. So i immediately called up the tatasky helpline number and to my surprise the number 1904------ number was like busy for 2hrs or more. Eventually i gave up and went out for dinner. When i got back then i found the STB's working properly with 60-80% Signal. Not getting through the helpline number was a real put off. Probably it was because of high number of new customers due to the CAS implementation in Delhi. Anyone else facing such a problem?

8th January 2007, 18:06	#170
ECM BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somewhere Posts: 220 Thanked: 4 Times	Aza,we get DTH via geostationary satellites and once in 2 months they DRIFT from their normal route hence earth station uses booster rockets in such a way that they again comeback to their normal path,this is not a problem in your set but it is a normal phenomenon.Rest assure pal.

8th January 2007, 21:34	#171
namit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 339 Thanked: 20 Times	Hi !! can someone please answer this for me - Hi !! Tata Sky has a 6 months free subscription offer till 10th of Jan so want to know if normal cable TV will go extinct and opting for CAS or DTH technology is mandatory ? Thanks !!

8th January 2007, 23:30	#172
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,601 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	Hey thanx ECM, i've explained it to my mom also now since she is the power user of DTH! @Namit : No Cable TV as we know will exist but you wont get any PAY CHANNELS if you dont have the Set Top BOX (STB). So if you dont purchase the STB (DTH or CAS) then you will still get channels but only FTA channels.

9th January 2007, 17:20	#176
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,533 Thanked: 387 Times View My Garage	You're welcome. been through the CAS maladie for the last 3 years here in chennai.

9th January 2007, 18:24	#177
danlalan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mumbai,JUHU Posts: 1,495 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Just bought my set-top box from my cable wala...3800/- for a year(incl set-top box) The best part is tht there are a lot of sports channels...THEY'VE EVEN GOT A MOTORS TV.... by the way if your watching tv and playing your ps 2..then be sure to get the splitter...your a/v wires from the ps2/dvd/set-top box connect here first then to your tv..

10th January 2007, 19:29	#180
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,420 Thanked: 3,301 Times View My Garage	White/red/yellow are RCA audio and video. they are analog inputs. the STB just decodes the signal and sends the unencrypted signal to the TV via those. Your signal strength of 70% isn't that great. Generally 80% or more. How about the error rate. how much is that. Even that should be around 80%. Also you can try getting the STB changed if nothing works to the HUMAX one which people say is a little better.