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Old 7th October 2013, 23:03   #6976
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While looking at 1024x768 I wasn't paying attention to the vertical lines. Having confirmed that 720p in wide screen format is 1280x720, beats me why manufacturers make non standard aspect and resolution. No wonder lots of people get confused, including yours truly. Days of CRT TV was so simple: you either buy a 14" or a 21", no confusing jargon!

Now I am open to being surprised by LCD panel in plasma TV.
Actually this happened because of the cinemascopic (Im making that word up ) ratio shift from 4:3 to 16:9. 1024*768 is 4:3, while 1280*720 and 1920*1080 are both 16:9 ratios. Now movies come in 16:9 as opposed to 4:3 standard that was prevalent in the past, and prior to that the ratio was 1:1, meaning a square. So this is all good I feel as long as it stays this, and Samsung does not come out with a ratio of 21:11 to prove its superiority. :lol

And yes, I still have a CRT monitor and a TV. The clarity of the CRT monitor (Philips, 9 years old) is unmatched, and has fantastic viewing angles, and I love it too much to let it go. Though its low on resolution and eats too much power.
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Old 7th October 2013, 23:08   #6977
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Referring to the text not appearing smooth and the banding issue, have you had Panasonic service take a look at these. I myself have a 50VT20D and my brother has a 50ST30D and a couple of 42UT30Ds, now thus far I have not seen edgy text or noticeable banding in any of these panels. I believe the ST30 and the S50 have the same panel might be an issue worth checking out.
This is one field in the 50S60d's spec.
Shades of Gradation : 6,144 gradation steps
Any idea what is the gradation steps value in the models that you have quoted?

The text are fine in 50s60d. AS it is a proper 1080p model.
The text issue was in the 1024*768 plasma models.

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Where did you buy this in Chennai, possible PM the details. But the issue without warranty is, if this 55 inches failed, we need to shell out a lot of money to fix.
Burma Bazaar, know folks there personally. Have purchased from here maybe 8 TVs over the past 10-15 years... Never had an issue. A tv we purchased in 1995 is still going strong...
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Old 8th October 2013, 08:36   #6979
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Actually this happened because of the cinemascopic (Im making that word up ) ratio shift from 4:3 to 16:9. 1024*768 is 4:3, while 1280*720 and 1920*1080 are both 16:9 ratios.
The Panasonic XT50 which has a resolution of 1024x768 is physically a wide screen. So this brings up the topic of non square pixels, which will further confound a layman.

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I picked up a sony bx450 40" LCD yesterday for 37900.
I actually wanted to check out plasmas first, but I was turned off by the sheer heat coming out of the plasmas om displays. Also, a similar sized plasma was coming out at the same price, ie, 38000.
And the sharpness on that one was seriously bad.
Could this be the store staffers messing up the settings on the TV to make people buy other techs, or is this a recognized issue, ie, Heat and clarity?
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Old 8th October 2013, 16:56   #6981
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The Panasonic XT50 which has a resolution of 1024x768 is physically a wide screen. So this brings up the topic of non square pixels, which will further confound a layman.
Interesting. I have noticed that in LCDs if you choose a resolution other than the optimal resolution then the pixels get stretched and the picture does not remain as crisp as say should stay in a CRT.
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Old 8th October 2013, 17:26   #6982
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Interesting. I have noticed that in LCDs if you choose a resolution other than the optimal resolution then the pixels get stretched and the picture does not remain as crisp as say should stay in a CRT.
That is because CRT is an analog device and accommodates various sizes by stretching the pixels pitch uniformly. In contrast LCD is digital, the pixels are at fixed location any pitch other than the native pitch will have to be assigned to either one or two pixels (when the new pitch is less more than 1/2 but less than full pitch). This results in some loss in crispness.

If the down res is 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 etc the crispness will remain.
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Let me know where I can see this information on the panel(in the menu etc.). It is not there in the systems and settings menus.

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This is one field in the 50S60d's spec.
Shades of Gradation : 6,144 gradation steps
Any idea what is the gradation steps value in the models that you have quoted?

The text are fine in 50s60d. AS it is a proper 1080p model.
The text issue was in the 1024*768 plasma models.
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News! Panasonic to exit plasma TV panel business by end-March 2014
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Read the story and disappointed with the news. Not sure if anything better will be available in a couple of years atleast at the same prices.
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That being the case, then buying a Panasonic plasma is a suggestive one? I am looking the flip side of the game with regards to the spare parts availability and the 0% value of the products after discontinuance of the product . In that case, will Samsung be a good choice . Please someone explain .

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Guys, contemplating a 50" Panasonic Plasma.

Any recommendations on model to choose and current pricing (considering festive offers floating around)?
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Now movies come in 16:9 as opposed to 4:3
I have to jump in and say that the above statement is incorrect. To my knowledge only animation movies are shot in 16:9 ratio.

All other movies use different ratios, mostly around 2.35:1.
So, when you watch a movie from your BluRay or DVD player, you will get the 'black bars' on the top and bottom. On a 16:9 TV, the bars will be thinner, but you cannot get rid of them without cropping some part of the movie.


When you see movies on DTH which come without any bars, remember that you are guaranteed to lose content from the left, right and the bottom.

Please read this thread, which has pictures to tell you how much movie content you lose when you watch movies on most of the movie channels.

http://www.hifivision.com/digital-ca...-nonsense.html



http://www.projectorcentral.com/formats.htm
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I have to jump in and say that the above statement is incorrect. To my knowledge only animation movies are shot in 16:9 ratio.
Yes, infact I came across several 2.35:1 ratio movie prints however it did not come to my mind when I wad stating the statement (:lol). Good that you mentioned that. Makes me think what are they doing by stretching movies this wide?

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That being the case, then buying a Panasonic plasma is it a suggestive one? I am looking the flip side of the game with regards to the spare parts availability and the 0% value of the products after discontinuance of the product . In that case, will Samsung be a good choice . Please someone explain .
Can some one reply for the above query .
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