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Old 24th February 2007, 04:25   #1
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Arrow ATI Radeon CrossFire display card

i'm on the lookout for a display card with a CrossFire certified ATI Radeon chipset.

from what i've researched i think any card within the X1300 or X1600/X1650 series should suit me just fine. i'm looking at one with 256MB but will probably go upto 512MB just because there isn't a huge price difference between them.

i'm not a hardcore gamer but i have a small collection and occassionally enjoy blowing up things & people (pixelated, ofcourse). i do watch downloaded/streaming videos and DVDs on the computer frequently.

now, the X1300 & X1600/X1650 have a pixel pipeline of 4.

is it worth spending more money and going in for a X1800 or a X1900/X1950 card which have pixel pipelines of 12 & 16?

also, is there a huge difference between GDDR2 & GDDR3 memory?

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Old 24th February 2007, 09:38   #2
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there will be a visibile difference between GDDR2 and GDDR3 memomry on the graphics card. If your games are not high-end, x1600/x1650 will do just fine. x1300 will be tooooo slow.

if you can wait for some time Ati is releasing next generation of graphics cards with DX10 capabilities under 80nm manufacturing process.
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Old 24th February 2007, 09:44   #3
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X1300 scrores 3 out of 5 for Windows Vista Aero experience. X1600 scores 4 and X1950 scores 5 of 5 ! If you really want to enjoy all features of Vista, better try X1950.
IMO, even a X1300 is more than enough for your current usage.
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i would also say wait for a month as ati and nvidia are releasing new Gfx....which will be directX10 compatible.....so plz wait if you can.....

Also the performance of a display card is not judge by the ram it has but it matters from the chipset it is using...the ram would make only 2-5 % differnce.....but the major work is done by the graphics processor.....

the ddr2 is a very old thing for a Gfx card.....the newer ones comes with a ddr3 memory.....

Yes pixel pipelines do make a differnce and there are vertex shader also....but the in the DX10...nvidia and ati has changed it to unified architecture

more info about it.....

Directly Unified: Nvidia GeForce 8800 Architecture Review

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Old 24th February 2007, 16:11   #5
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LOW BASS MAKER

Nvidia is currently going through a rough time as their gfx cards dont support games in vista at all. Infact Nvidia may face a lawsuit if they dont come up with anything soon.
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LOW BASS MAKER

Nvidia is currently going through a rough time as their gfx cards dont support games in vista at all. Infact Nvidia may face a lawsuit if they dont come up with anything soon.
sir that is old news now....nvidia is now giving WHQL (Windows Hardware Quality Labs) certified driver for vista...since 20 FEB 2007....you can check out there website....

Windows Vista 32-bit

only the SLI support is leftout which will be included in the next ver soon.....

also I did not recommended any Nvidia card....I said for both company....
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I am not following the case really but www.notebookreview has the news published on 22nd of February.

News Bits: NVidia DX10 Card for Notebooks, NVidia Vista Driver Problems, The Reason for Junk Software

NVidiaClassAction.org
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I have 8800 series gfx but i have not installed vista so i cannot comment further on this....but if a product is whql certified then I think it will work fine.....also the driver ver on the nvidia site is 100.65 but the laptopreview people were talking about version 100.30, 100.54 and 100.59. which ver not whql cert
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thanks for your inputs guys.
i'm in no hurry to buy a card ASAP - i think i can hold on for a month or two.
yes, my games aren't high-end and even if i do get hold of a few which require the works to run, then i think i can live with a few lowered settings.
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One more question :

between Nvidia 71 series 512 mb pci-e graphics card and the
Ati Radeon x1300(not sure on the model #) 512 mb pci-e graphics card,

which is better caz Nvidia casts 5750 and Ati Radeon is bout 5250/-. Which one do i go for? cause i will be buying my comp this weekend...

My choice is Nvidia but need some reviews about it.
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i would say go for atleast 7600gs it will cost you nearly....6k but the performance would be more than twice that of the mentioned above....
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One more question :

between Nvidia 71 series 512 mb pci-e graphics card and the
Ati Radeon x1300(not sure on the model #) 512 mb pci-e graphics card,

which is better caz Nvidia casts 5750 and Ati Radeon is bout 5250/-. Which one do i go for? cause i will be buying my comp this weekend...

My choice is Nvidia but need some reviews about it.
Nvidia rules Open GL while ATI rules D3D

ATI is better at notebook power saving GPU's

Nvidia is better at Linux drivers

Both dont support DX10.0 (minux nvidia 8800)

both support Vista

Nvidia is a graphics powerhouse while ATI is now owned by AMD.

Nvidia has an upperhand with vista sideshow support

both would have probably transistioned to 80nm trasistor tech by now.

when they say 512mb memory, it means that most is shared with RAM (Hypermemory/turbocache) for low end cards like the one you have selected.
check out how much is actual and how much is dedicated. Also do check the compatibility with the softwares you are going to run.

For a desktop I would recommend Nvidia. But if it is an amd machine, maybe the new drivers may support it better.
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when they say 512mb memory, it means that most is shared with RAM (Hypermemory/turbocache) for low end cards like the one you have selected.
check out how much is actual and how much is dedicated. Also do check the compatibility with the softwares you are going to run.

For a desktop I would recommend Nvidia. But if it is an amd machine, maybe the new drivers may support it better.
Well i am buying the Amd 5000+ which i think should work on 4+. ghz... and its a gigabyte board. dunno series of it. and i am buyin in terms of gaming and my music. so should i go for nvidia 7100 series pci-e 512 mb graphics card? so is there something more high end that i go for... and one thing im in Hyd.. so latest of the latest does take time to come here....
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Well i am buying the Amd 5000+ which i think should work on 4+. ghz... and its a gigabyte board. dunno series of it. and i am buyin in terms of gaming and my music. so should i go for nvidia 7100 series pci-e 512 mb graphics card? so is there something more high end that i go for... and one thing im in Hyd.. so latest of the latest does take time to come here....
firstly the amd 5000+ runs at 2.6 ghz...also it has 512kb + 512kb L2 cache....

for gaming 7100 is a waste of money it will give a very poor performance....go for atleast 7300gt...as it will give playable frame rate at 800*600 resolution...but I would recommmend the 7600GT or 1900pro as it will be great card for the money.....

If you are not in a hurry to get a GFX wait for a month or so cheaper card of DX10 are coming out soon.....both by ATI and Nvidia.....
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Old 27th February 2007, 23:59   #15
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Post x1900 GT

this is the card I just bought yesterday. initially i thought i would wait but i have to get my home setup ready soon.
manufactured by Connect3D. more details here: Radeon® X1900 GT 256MB GDDR3 with DVI-I + DVI-I + VIVO HDCP Enabled (PART NO. 3071)
should be decent enough for me for the time being. will probably upgrade to the 80nm setup later on in the year.
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