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Old 4th December 2012, 11:27   #3316
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Made the mistake of buying a Whirlpool washing machine. Never again

spent 3k to replace the display at the end of the 1st year.
spending another 5.5k to replace the tub after 2.5 years.
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Made the mistake of buying a Whirlpool washing machine. Never again

spent 3k to replace the display at the end of the 1st year.
spending another 5.5k to replace the tub after 2.5 years.
Don't blame only Whirlpool.
Almost all the consumer goods manufacturers have the same OEMs (based in China/Taiwan/Malaysia/Thailand). It just boils down to:
1. How much margin your brand want's to earn and hence the price differences. [You have a say in this while making a purchase]
2. Your luck with the piece - it might turn out faulty or it may work reliably for decades. [You have no say in this]
3. The after sales service for the faulty piece. [Everyone is as pathetic as the next one in this market]

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Old 4th December 2012, 11:58   #3318
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Made the mistake of buying a Whirlpool washing machine. Never again

spent 3k to replace the display at the end of the 1st year.
spending another 5.5k to replace the tub after 2.5 years.
Always get a comprehensive AMC plan for washing machines...
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Planning to buy whirlpool neo chill refrigerator, does anyone know of any reliable shops in delhi, where one can get a good deal (the ones with the entire range preferred since the plan is to go for a 480L model).
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Next option would be Kaff. I have the Kaff at home and found the quality a notch above glen. Faber is the lowest followed by Gilma in quality.
I have decided to go with Glen for a few reasons as below :-

a) AP Distributor for Glen is practically next door to my home

b) He happens to be a close friend of my friend (Same gym and swimming pool). I am also joining the same gym and pool from Jan'13

c) He recommended me to wait for 3-4 days ( till end of this week) as Glen is coming up with some offer (Chimney+ Stove)

d) Motor has life-time warranty. Everything else is STEEL

If i buy stand-alone Chimney +Stove, it would be approximately 16k+9K.
In the above said offer, I am thinking I will get the combination in price range of 12K-14K ( from the vague price hints he's been giving me)

P.S: He also mentioned there's a good chance they may throw in a steel-framed pop-up Toaster (MRP : Rs.1999) as a freebie

Model chosen has 1000Cu.ft suction power and is dome shaped. Looks HOT !!!
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Just make sue that it is designed for indoor discharge (or outdoor if needed) since most houses need indoor discharge!
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Just make sue that it is designed for indoor discharge (or outdoor if needed) since most houses need indoor discharge!
Can you please highlight the difference between the two? Do you mean about the discharge of fumes?
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d) Motor has life-time warranty. Everything else is STEEL
Steel corrodes. Stainless Steel (grades 3xx and above do not).
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The best part is that the temperature drop through during the coldest of nights is no more than 3-5 degrees C with light usage during the night, so early morning one again has the comfort of hot water and there is no need to rush and switch on the geyser.
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AO Smith is far superior to other established brands in the Indian market, but costlier by around 1000 rupees for equivalent models.
Compared to another Racold at home this one retains the heat in the water for a much longer time, which saves a lot of electricity. Added to that the looks, fit and finish are also much better.

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Old 4th December 2012, 21:47   #3325
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Checked & found Racold, Venus & V-Guard retailing. Other shop had Crompton, but couldn't check out.

No A.O. Smith on sale. So I should go ahead with...?
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Checked & found Racold, Venus & V-Guard retailing. Other shop had Crompton, but couldn't check out.

No A.O. Smith on sale. So I should go ahead with...?
Would recommend Racold or Crompton but since that is not available go with Racold.

Venus has been selling the same old model for years, atleast Racold has upgraded the models with better looks, more features and better resistance to hard water.

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d) Motor has life-time warranty. Everything else is STEEL

If i buy stand-alone Chimney +Stove, it would be approximately 16k+9K.
In the above said offer, I am thinking I will get the combination in price range of 12K-14K ( from the vague price hints he's been giving me)

P.S: He also mentioned there's a good chance they may throw in a steel-framed pop-up Toaster (MRP : Rs.1999) as a freebie

Model chosen has 1000Cu.ft suction power and is dome shaped. Looks HOT !!!
Motor usually has life time warranty because it can never go wrong. It usually goes wrong if you don't clean the filter cartridge regularly. If you don't clean the cartridge it gets blocked and eventually the motor sucks up oil. Result is motor kaput and no warranty because of misuse.

Chimney is of 2 types. For one type you need to route the exhaust from the top using a duct outside your house. Else it will just blow to the top and ruin the walls and ceiling and wont do much use.

The other type uses a charcoal filter inside. This does not require any routing but the charcoal needs replacement and is expensive.

In both you still have to clean the mesh filter regularly.

If you have a window nearby go for the ducting one since the charcoal replacement is expensive.

The combo packs for chminey + hob usually have a sucky model chimney or a sucky model hob. Check that.

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Steel corrodes. Stainless Steel (grades 3xx and above do not).
Navin, now thats a new tech jargon introduced in the whole equation. Kindly elaborate in simple langauge

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Chimney is of 2 types. For one type you need to route the exhaust from the top using a duct outside your house. Else it will just blow to the top and ruin the walls and ceiling and wont do much use.

The other type uses a charcoal filter inside. This does not require any routing but the charcoal needs replacement and is expensive.
Thanks for that explanation. We have a window which currently has a exhaust fan which will be replaced with routing of exhaust out...So the inside routing expensive stuff was not even in the thought
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Navin, now thats a new tech jargon introduced in the whole equation. Kindly elaborate in simple langauge
Steel is the common term for Mild Steel which corrodes.

Stain Steel is an alloy which is more resistant to corrosion (depending on the grade and application).

The 2xx series for example is least resistant. The 3xx series is better and is used for kitchen utensils and cutlery (grade 304 is often refered to 18/8 in the US). If memory serves right "18/8" refers to 18% Chromium and 8% Nickel.

Better cutlery uses Grade 420 or 430 (forget which) but this was the stuff used in old english cutlery that our grandfathers used/craved for. This grade is harder than 3xx and the intricate designs of the cutlery are preserved better.

At the other end we have grades like 904L which is used by good watch companies like Rolex for the watch bodies.

I would suggest that the chimney steel be at least SS grade 304 (which is quite common in India).

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I would suggest that the chimney steel be at least SS grade 304 (which is quite common in India).
Splendid explanation.....Will check with them when buying !!!
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I think SS304 is the most common followed by SS316. Even 302 is not that common. So unless it is some cast and rolled stuff from scrap you should be Ok.
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