The Mobile Phone Thread - Queries, decisions, discussions all here.

[Jaggu]

@ajo: if your company has Exchange, IMAP or POP access then BB will be a waste of money and simple EDGE/GPRS is good enough. Being in chennai your access to bandwidth is much better also.

[hydrashok]

Originally Posted by ntomer

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I gifted myself a Plam Treo 750 this week-end. It comes with Windows 6.0.

Till now my experiences with it are -

1. It is definitely much quicker than E61.
2. The interface is much more intuitive than Symbian's.
3. Browser is not as good as Symbian. There is no mouse pointer, links have to be cliccked by stylus; thus I can't surf with one hand.
4. Browser doesn't render pages well. Even my N73's browser renders pages much better than this. Moneycontrol and Orkut sites are absolutely unusable.
5. For some weird reason I am not able to login to icicibank.com; it says that lohin id/password wrong. But ICICIDirect working fine.

Congrats on the buy! The Treo is a good phone. Good to know the 750 comes with WiMo6 now. I thought they were still giving WiMo5.

I'd differ on point 2 (as far as getting into the settings are concerned), but that's just me. I love WiMo for the expansion possibilities and the close to unlimited availability of 3rd party SW.

The OE browser (Pocket IE) is pretty much useless. Opera Mini (free) is a much better option. An even better option is Opera Mobile 8.65 (priced SW). NetFront is also a good alternative option (but I prefer Opera).

PocketIE is pretty much useless wherever there is a bit of javascript involved. That must be the issue with ICICIDirect. Try downloading the demo of Opera Mobile 8.65 and you'll really see the difference!

[hydrashok]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

@ajo: if your company has Exchange, IMAP or POP access then BB will be a waste of money and simple EDGE/GPRS is good enough. Being in chennai your access to bandwidth is much better also.

I think so too! IMAP works great with Symbian. I forward all my key email to a gmail account and access email via IMAP on my E90. I've set the phone to download email every 15 minutes automatically. But, since the email app stays connected to the server all the time, a lot of emails get delivered on the phone almost simultaneously.

[ntomer]

Originally Posted by hydrashok

Congrats on the buy! The Treo is a good phone. Good to know the 750 comes with WiMo6 now. I thought they were still giving WiMo5.

I'd differ on point 2 (as far as getting into the settings are concerned), but that's just me. I love WiMo for the expansion possibilities and the close to unlimited availability of 3rd party SW.

The OE browser (Pocket IE) is pretty much useless. Opera Mini (free) is a much better option. An even better option is Opera Mobile 8.65 (priced SW). NetFront is also a good alternative option (but I prefer Opera).

PocketIE is pretty much useless wherever there is a bit of javascript involved. That must be the issue with ICICIDirect. Try downloading the demo of Opera Mobile 8.65 and you'll really see the difference!

Thanx hydrashok,

I checked Opera Mobile 8.65 and found it costs USD 64; where Opera mini is free. Is Opera Mobile really worth 100o INR. What are the major differences between it and min. I tried to found through net but couldn't find anything conclusive.

Cheers

Nitin

[gr8guzzler]

Originally Posted by mail4ajo

I dont see the link to download BB connect for E51 anywhere.

@ajo...as I mentioned earlier, the E90 version works on E51.

Read more here craigs tech blog: Blackberry Connect on E51

My personal place in space: Nokia E51 & BlackBerry Connect

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by viper

Hi,

Got it from my regular phone supplier. I like the phone so much that I am going in the next hour to exchange my E61i for it. I love the speed of the phone. The E61i speed feels ancient in comparison.

Viper

Could you please PM me the details of your phone shop? I am also keen to go for E51.

BTW how much are you getting for your E61i?

[mail4ajo]

Originally Posted by gr8guzzler

@ajo...as I mentioned earlier, the E90 version works on E51.

Read more here craigs tech blog: Blackberry Connect on E51

My personal place in space: Nokia E51 & BlackBerry Connect

I know. But the issue is that the service provider says that even though it can be activated, the service will not work as the network has not configured E51. Thats the reason the software isnt available yet.

Anyone using Blackberry on E51 in India? My lotus supports only blackberry. I checked with my IT guy.

[ntomer]

Originally Posted by hydrashok

The OE browser (Pocket IE) is pretty much useless. Opera Mini (free) is a much better option. An even better option is Opera Mobile 8.65 (priced SW). NetFront is also a good alternative option (but I prefer Opera).

PocketIE is pretty much useless wherever there is a bit of javascript involved. That must be the issue with ICICIDirect. Try downloading the demo of Opera Mobile 8.65 and you'll really see the difference!

Hi,

Thanx for your suggession. I have installed Esmertec JBed Midlet manager and Opera mini, and it works great. It is able to open Orkut and Cricinfo, but not icicibank.com. ICICIDirect.com works in both Pocket IE and Opera Mini.

DO any of you have managed to login to ICICIBank.com through Opera Mini?

Since Opera Mini pages are processed 1t and transmitted through Opera servers, it it safe to work on banking and trading sites?

Thanx

Nitin

[Jaggu]

Lotus can be configured for IMAP also, rather it has to be enabled. Same issue here with my exchange server, IT guys just refused to accept it first, then went on to say it was activated. Finally i had to sent them some links on how to :P

Simplest is to use web access, am not a hardcore techie but i have a strong feeling its possible with Lotus also.

Some info for enabling:
Lotus Domino Administrator 6 Help - Setting up IMAP users
Lotus Domino Administrator 6 Help - Configuring IMAP client software

[praveenkm]

Originally Posted by ntomer

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Opera mini, and it works great. It is able to open Orkut and Cricinfo, but not icicibank.com. ICICIDirect.com works in both Pocket IE and Opera Mini.

DO any of you have managed to login to ICICIBank.com through Opera Mini?

Since Opera Mini pages are processed 1t and transmitted through Opera servers, it it safe to work on banking and trading sites?

I am able to open icicibank account from Opera mini on my k790i.

But ICICI bank provides a dedicated application for mobiles. It can be downloaded from ICICI website. With this application you can directly login to ur icici account and do all the operations such as bal enquire, funds transfer and even utility bill payment. All this without needing the browser.

It can even operate demat account.

check here for more info:
ICICI Mobile Banking Application | iMobile | Mobile Money Transfer | Bill Payments | Check Credit Balance

[sammyboy]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Lotus can be configured for IMAP also, rather it has to be enabled. Same issue here with my exchange server, IT guys just refused to accept it first, then went on to say it was activated. Finally i had to sent them some links on how to :P

Simplest is to use web access, am not a hardcore techie but i have a strong feeling its possible with Lotus also.

Some info for enabling:
Lotus Domino Administrator 6 Help - Setting up IMAP users
Lotus Domino Administrator 6 Help - Configuring IMAP client software

You are right jaggu, it is very much possible.Infact a lot of my colleagues from one of my previous organisations access their lotus mails on their phones.The only issue is not all companies provide lotus webmail facility.

[praveenkm]

Originally Posted by ntomer

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Opera mini, and it works great. It is able to open Orkut and Cricinfo, but not icicibank.com. ICICIDirect.com works in both Pocket IE and Opera Mini.

DO any of you have managed to login to ICICIBank.com through Opera Mini?

Since Opera Mini pages are processed 1t and transmitted through Opera servers, it it safe to work on banking and trading sites?

I am able to open icicibank.com from operamini on my k790i...

As for accessing icicibank, icici provides a mobile application which directly connects to icicibank and you can do all banking transactions like bal enq, funds trans, demant and utility bill payment.

Check here for more info:
ICICI Mobile Banking Application | iMobile | Mobile Money Transfer | Bill Payments | Check Credit Balance

[mail4ajo]

Yes Jaggu, I understand how ignorant IT guys can be at times (due respects to IT guys here). But in my company, its matter of policy rather just enabling it. I think the BB guys bainwashed my US IT guys to believe its the only secure service.

Originally Posted by sammyboy

The only issue is not all companies provide lotus webmail facility.

I have the web version. So I may just stick to it through regular GPRS, Sadly I dont get the push facility if I decide to use the E51.

[ntomer]

Originally Posted by praveenkm

I am able to open icicibank.com from operamini on my k790i...

As for accessing icicibank, icici provides a mobile application which directly connects to icicibank and you can do all banking transactions like bal enq, funds trans, demant and utility bill payment.

Check here for more info:
ICICI Mobile Banking Application | iMobile | Mobile Money Transfer | Bill Payments | Check Credit Balance

After lots of googling I found out that icicibank.com doesn't run on Opera Mini 4; so I have also installed Opera Mini 3.1 on my mobile.

Now I use 3.1 for ICICI, 4.0 for everything else.

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[whatcanthisbe]

Originally Posted by mail4ajo

But in my company, its matter of policy rather just enabling it. I think the BB guys bainwashed my US IT guys to believe its the only secure service.


I have the web version. So I may just stick to it through regular GPRS, Sadly I dont get the push facility if I decide to use the E51.

Like i told you on the earlier posts some companies will only Push e-mail to your mobile device if it is a Black berry device not a blackberry supported device this is for security reasons, several co's do it