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Old 21st August 2008, 15:11   #226
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Navinji, i am not a pro or anything, just an enthusiast,thats all

As of now i think the 9550 is being sold for 27k and i know its going to be avlbl for around 15k but when i dont know.

I seriously feel 9450 should suffice. Or else what you can do is, you can build the system with remaining stuff, buy a cheap E2140 or something for 2.6k odd and once 9550 is avlbl for 15k, pick it up.

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Oops !! how could i forget it, nice addition greenhorn.
My vote too goes for 4850. Its leagues ahead of 8800GT.

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Old 21st August 2008, 15:37   #227
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IMHO for your requirements, you should be able to build a system for 60k (Including monitor + Software).

If I got it right:

1. You have AVCHD Video from camcorder
2. You want to touch up the video, combine it with other sources and such things
3. You are not doing it professionally (No boss is screaming you to edit 5 videos in 8 hours)

Then you don't need a full blown video editing setup with Pinnacle + 27k Quad core.

Any decent system will do. I will try configuring such a system later today/tomorrow.

Try Nero, it claims to support AVCHD (Nero – Update)

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Amey's config missed out on a good 'card for navin's config. I nominate the 4850. since it costs slightly more than a new 8800 and has much better performance. Any other nominations ?
Do you think he will benefit from a beefier Video card?

He needs it just for Video playback. All processing is going to be done in CPU by Nero or some other editing software.

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Old 21st August 2008, 15:55   #228
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1. You have AVCHD Video from camcorder
2. You want to touch up the video, combine it with other sources and such things
3. You are not doing it professionally (No boss is screaming you to edit 5 videos in 8 hours).
1. I have video mostly bits and pieces some 10 mins long some shorter on a SD card (AVCHD). I want to be able to copy the relavant bits into one DVD which i can then play back on any DVD player.

I will not be doing fancy editing now, but maybe later once i get the hang of simple cut and paste. even then my editing will mostly be fading in and out etc.. rather simple stuff

2. I am always short on time so i want a machine that can do this fast. I dont want a 10 min video to take 30 mins. Hence i decided to get 8GB of RAM.

This PC will be used for other work incl my Music, Browsing the web, and MS Office but when I am editing the video i wont tax it with all of this.

Thanks guys for the time and trouble.
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Old 21st August 2008, 16:08   #229
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Do you think he will benefit from a beefier Video card?

He needs it just for Video playback. All processing is going to be done in CPU by Nero or some other editing software.
not necessarily

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Aren't we are talking about "Encoding" here
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to encode the AVC to any other format , you have to decode it first right
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Old 21st August 2008, 16:48   #232
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the 4850 can come in handy while encoding too. The inbuilt Avivo encoder in ATI cards is pretty efficient and fast.
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to encode the AVC to any other format , you have to decode it first right
Yes, but that hardly takes any muscle power. Its encoding thats a killer.

I have 4 year old Athlon XP (1.8 GHz) I can rip DVDs pretty fast. Bur encoding a DVD takes 5 hours.

(Should change soon, upgrading my PC )
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Old 22nd August 2008, 10:45   #234
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I'd suggest you up your budget a bit and get a 30" Dell 3007WFP.
How much?

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9550 is selling for 15k in some places.
Cool.

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I nominate the 4850.
who makes this?

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Navinji, i am not a pro
once 9550 is avlbl for 15k, pick it up.
My vote too goes for 4850.
Arey baba yeh "4850" kya hai! Last I heard Pioneer made a HU called the 4850 but I know this wont fit in a desktop. :-)

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Yes, but that hardly takes any muscle power. Its encoding thats a killer.
All I want to do is cut and paste video from my SD card onto DVD.

See what I do is record on SD card with my Canon HF10 (NTSC version). Once that is done I need to cut and paste various sections...

example...
1. Sunday 10am I record my son's sports event
2. Wednesday 7pm I record my sis-in-llaws kids
3. Saturday 10pm I record my parents-in-law's anniversary dinner
4. following Wednesday 5pm I record my son's poetry recital
...

my God parents (living in LA) are not interested in "2" and "3" so I need to only send them "1" and "4" on DVD.

All I want to do is cut and paste relevant sections on one DVD.

Now guys spec me a PC that can do this FAST! I want blazing speed I dont want to wait 30 min for 10 min edits.

So far based on Amey's quote and ROC's monitor I got this...
Intel Core2Quad Q9550 = 15k
Abit IX38 QuadGT = 11k (any alternate MOBO? my dealer does not have Abit IX38)
GeForce 8800GT = 12K (now replaced with a Pio 4850 HU for about 15K?)
2GB x 4 Transcend DDR2 800 = 6.5K
500GB Seagate SATA II = 3.5k
Corsair HX 620W Power Supply = 6.5k (Corsair HX620/TX650 or Tagan BZ600)
CoolerMaster CM690 Chassis = 4K
Lite On 20X Sata DVD Writer = 1.5k ( prefer Lite On to Samsung but am ok with Samsung is Lite On is not available)
Dell 30" 3007WFP LCD = 30K?
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Total : 63K + Monitor + Vista Ultimate

ok I am going to put a limit of 1L (incl Vista and Monitor) on this PC before it gets out of hand.

BTW anyone knows where I can get a Canon BP819 battery and CG800 charger?

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Pio 4850
What I meant was the ATI Radeon 4850. Its available for 11k these days

Regarding the DVD writer, I'd suggest the samsung. I'm a huge Liteon Fan as well, but The samsung drives are cheaper, look better, and are quieter. If you still like Liteon's despite these issues, You can buy the writer - as I did

Regarding my points
cheaper - the samsung is 1.1~1.2k, the Liteon is a bit more expensive ( but certainly not 1.5k. are you sure about the quote?)
looks- the plastic looks like its something you might buy from a roadside vendor. very cheap looking
noise - it makes an infernal racket when spinning up and down. People say the samsung is quiter.

The write performance etc, both are equally competent. so no issues there. I prefer Liteons because there are third party firmwares available for them with extended functionality

PS: If you are buying a sony writer , check its model number. They are (with the exception of the old *170 series) all made by other manufacturers and sony just puts the sticker on them, somewhat like the cityrover and the indica, except that the sony model commands a premium for no apparent increases in performance. Having said that , the difference is only a hundred rupees or so.
For example my current writer , a sony AD 7190 is a rebadged Liteon 20A3

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What I meant was the ATI Radeon 4850. Its available for 11k these days
Regarding the DVD writer, I'd suggest the samsung. cheaper..the write performance etc, both are equally competent.
ok so we now get this...
Intel Core2Quad Q9550 = 15k
Abit IX38 QuadGT = 11k (any alternate MOBO? my dealer does not have Abit IX38)
ATI Radeon 4850 / GeForce 8800GT = 12K
2GB x 4 Transcend DDR2 800 = 6.8K (rs. 1700 x 4)
500GB Seagate SATA II = 3.5k
Corsair HX 620W Power Supply = 6.5k (Corsair HX620/TX650 or Tagan BZ600)
CoolerMaster CM690 Chassis = 4K
Samsung 20X Sata DVD Writer = 1.2k
Dell 30" 3007WFP LCD = 30K?
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Total : 60K (monitor and OS extra)

Is this ok? can anyone spec an alternate mother board, chassis and power supply?

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Asus P5Q Pro = 8k
Asus P5Q-E =10.5k
Abit IP35 Pro = 9.5k
Asus P5Q Deluxe - 12.5k

Good enough choice Navinji ?

Wipe out Geforce 8800GT from there, go for ATI 4850 with eyes closed.Superb card.You wont go wrong with it.
You can also think of Western Digital 640GB SATA II for 4k
Corsair ONLY for PSU, dont buy Tagan, i dont trust them.
LCD is upto your choice.
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All I want to do is cut and paste video from my SD card onto DVD.

See what I do is record on SD card with my Canon HF10 (NTSC version). Once that is done I need to cut and paste various sections...
Then you don't need latest and greatest 1 Lakh PC.

If you are creating DVD :

First thing Nero / Ulead will do is it will "downgrade" AVCHD video to SD Video (DVDs can' handle HD) and SD Video can be converted to DVD in an hour (For a 1.5 Hour film)
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Then you don't need latest and greatest 1 Lakh PC.

If you are creating DVD :

First thing Nero / Ulead will do is it will "downgrade" AVCHD video to SD Video (DVDs can' handle HD) and SD Video can be converted to DVD in an hour (For a 1.5 Hour film)
He has also mentioned somewhere above that the PC should suffice for atleast 4-5 Years. So it makes sense to go for a decent setup. 60k for the CPU itself is decent enough, its the 30" LCD thats jacking up the price.That is completely upto Navinji, what to go for.
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He has also mentioned somewhere above that the PC should suffice for atleast 4-5 Years. So it makes sense to go for a decent setup. 60k for the CPU itself is decent enough, its the 30" LCD thats jacking up the price.That is completely upto Navinji, what to go for.
Yes I like my PCs to last a bit so I dont have to change and backup all the data. My last PC (Asus) lasted me 4 years (400GB HD / 2GB RAM / 19" monitor / 128MB GeForce video card).

The 60K price is sans monitor.
What kind of monitor can I get for 20K? I'd like 24" atleast.
Vista Ultimate is 10K.

Any other MOBO other than Abit? My dealer says Asus after sales service is poor.

Also are all big monitors wide screen. I prefer the old 4:3 ratio.

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