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Old 27th May 2009, 23:25   #331
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does simmtronics still exist? Didnt they sell a whole load of bad RAM dirt cheap and then dissapear from the indian scene?

At least the local assemblers learned this the hard way and now suggest branded RAM always (helps that their prices have also fallen)
Actually there were lot of duplicate simtronics available at that time. now they have entered through proper channel.ium D

talk about backward compatability
Pentium 4 HT (pinless), Pentium D, Pentium Dual core, Pentium, Core2 Duo (bios update needed in some), all can be used in 945 series. mobo which was released long ago.

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Hi,

A query regarding the LCD monitor, I am planning for a 19" LCD, options are Asus, Dell, Samsung, BenQ etc... , monitor should have DVI input.

Any recommendations, Techenclave fav seems to be Dell E1909W, is it really the best choice out there or there are any other alternatives. If yes, Recommended Dealer in Delhi to pick it from? Don't want any hassles for availing services during warranty period etc.

Thanks in advance :-)
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Hi,

A query regarding the LCD monitor, I am planning for a 19" LCD, options are Asus, Dell, Samsung, BenQ etc... , monitor should have DVI input.

Any recommendations, Techenclave fav seems to be Dell E1909W, is it really the best choice out there or there are any other alternatives. If yes, Recommended Dealer in Delhi to pick it from? Don't want any hassles for availing services during warranty period etc.

Thanks in advance :-)
I bought a Dell E1909W about a fortnight ago and am pretty happy with it. I bought it from Cost to Cost Computers in Nehru Place, for Rs. 6,750/-

The web-site says the box contains a DVI cable but when I opened it at home, there was no cable. I went to the shop next day and told him about it, he gave me a cable without asking any thing.

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Hi,

A query regarding the LCD monitor, I am planning for a 19" LCD, options are Asus, Dell, Samsung, BenQ etc... , monitor should have DVI input.

Any recommendations, Techenclave fav seems to be Dell E1909W, is it really the best choice out there or there are any other alternatives. If yes, Recommended Dealer in Delhi to pick it from? Don't want any hassles for availing services during warranty period etc.
Never ever go for ViewSonic. Their monitors were quite VFM and of reasonable quality initially, but recently, their quality has dropped. My VA1912W is giving ghost image, and is in warranty, but still they are not ready to give replacement.

Also there is a thread started by Munemmk ( sorry for the wrong name ) about his ordeal with Viewsonic monitors.

If you want HD, go for Benq E2200HD. Else, as ntomer has suggested, go for Dell 1909W.
But dont buy ViewSonic at any cost. Trust me I am spoiling my eyes now on my VA1912W.

Here is my thread on ViewSonic :
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/gadget...ight=Viewsonic (Ghost Image Formation in 2 Year Old 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor. Opinions required.)

And this one from Muneemmk:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/gadget...ight=Viewsonic (The Baddest aftersales ever - Viewsonic LCD India.)

Rather than techenclave, try TheITWares - Buy Computer Hardware , PC Components , Laptop Computers - One Stop for all Gizmos!!
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2 days back I bought 19" AOC LCD Wide Screen monitor.Model no:917VW+ with dvi out for Rs6600/- at kochin .The Performance is satisfactory.using DVI out as Input to LCD .onsite warranty for 3 years.although AOC-India site claims 917VW discontinued(in India) this model 917VW+ -there are ex-stock 917VW+ available with many kochin dealers.Anyone knows whether any difference between 917Vw and 917Vw+
:: AOC India, " From the Worlds Largest manufacturers of Computer Monitors ::

EDIT: Specifications:-
AOC 917VW+ - LCD display - TFT - 19" specs and LCD Monitor specifications - CNET Reviews
and 19" AOC 917Fwh is the current model which is HDCP Compliant, DVI Input ready as per aoc site:
:: AOC India, " From the Worlds Largest manufacturers of Computer Monitors ::

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CNET product brief for 917VW+


Description: The Envision AOC 917VW+ is a 19 in, flat panel computer monitor.Compared to other flat panel monitors on the market, it is relatively inexpensive at around $180.This display features a 1440x900 native resolution.Weighs 8.4 lbs.
Pros: Its wide viewing angle (160 degrees) is useful whenever the screen is being viewed by more than one person at the same time.Accepts DVI input, which allows for greater signal clarity than traditional VGA.
Cons: None noted, given available product data.
Suitability: Made for those who want a spacious screen that will not hog their entire desk.The 5 ms response time of this screen makes it ideal for fast-moving games and for watching movies.
Value: Given its relatively inexpensive price, this monitor has great features for the money.For example, when it comes to viewable screen size, the average price of flat panel monitors with comparable viewable size is quite a bit more?right around $335.
AOC 917VW+ - LCD display - TFT - 19" LCD Monitor reviews - CNET Reviews

Hopefully was a Good Buy!finger crossed!

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Hi,

My current system's configuration is -

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Processor Intel E8400; 3.0 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB, 6 MB L2 Cache
Motherboard DG31PR, Intel G31 Chipset, 1333 MHz FSB
RAM Kingston , 2*1GB DDR2 800 MHz
Graphics Card XFX 7900GS, 256 MB DDR3
HDD Seagate 500GB, Sata2, 7200.12, 32 MB Buffer
Cabinet iBall Workhorse
Power Supply Corsair VX450W
I've an option to upgrade the graphics card to Palit HD 4870 1GB Sonic Dual Edition . I searched a bit about this card and found that it uses PCIe 2.0 x16 whereas my MoBo only supports PCIe 1.0 x16; but I also found that there are no cards available right now which use even PCIe 1.0's complete band-width . So this should be a non-issue, right?

But will my PSU be able to take it's load; my PSU only has one PCIe 6 pin connector, and I found the following for this card -

*Power Supply Unit Requirement:
500 Watt or greater power supply with two 75W 6-pin PCI-Express® power connectors recommended (600 Watt and four 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX® technology in dual mode)

So what do you suggest, is this card or ok? Or do you you suggest something else? The max budget is 15K.

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I've an option to upgrade the graphics card to Palit HD 4870 1GB Sonic Dual Edition . I searched a bit about this card and found that it uses PCIe 2.0 x16 whereas my MoBo only supports PCIe 1.0 x16; but I also found that there are no cards available right now which use even PCIe 1.0's complete band-width . So this should be a non-issue, right?

But will my PSU be able to take it's load; my PSU only has one PCIe 6 pin connector, and I found the following for this card -

Power Supply Unit Requirement:
500 Watt or greater power supply with two 75W 6-pin PCI-Express® power connectors recommended (600 Watt and four 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX® technology in dual mode)

So what do you suggest, is this card or ok? Or do you you suggest something else? The max budget is 15K.
From my practical experience, if I stuff in 9800GT in 1.1 slot and 2.0 slot, I am able to notice a marginal performance gain in 2.0.
The difference is there practically, but then you just wont notice it. Its noticeable when playing graphics heavy game Crysis ( that brings the highest end cards to its knees ) at very high settings.
Otherwise the difference is not noticeable by everyone.
Theorotically, there will be no difference, but practically difference is observed. The reason why always 2.0 mobo must be bought is that the 5XXX series from ATI and next gen cards from Nvidia will need the 2.0 slot.

The card you have mentioned uses around 150W. The slot can itself provide 75W, but not more. 4850 and 4830 use 110W. 4770 uses 80W.

If you dont want to spend more on PSU, I suggest you have a look at 4770. It is very good VFM card that does everything fine and consumes less power. It is better than 4830 and can match 4850 if some OC is done. But overall its a nice card for around Rs. 8.5K.

I recommend have a look at 4770. And still if you want 4870 then you will have to go for new PSU. There are some splitter jobs available, but never use them.


EDIT : If you are using dual GPU set up, you will need 2.0.

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Thanks everyone for their help

The final system config, AMD x2 7850+ BE, Asus M3A78-VM, 2 GB DDR2 800, 500 GB SATA2, Dell E1909W.

Dell E1909W looks nice, there is another model S1909W which maybe passed on as 19" by some dealers but is in fact 18.5" and doesn't look so good, but anyway looks are subjective.
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Dell E1909W looks nice, there is another model S1909W which maybe passed on as 19" by some dealers but is in fact 18.5" and doesn't look so good, but anyway looks are subjective.
Even the E1909W is 18.5"; the only difference between E and S is resolution.

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Anybody interested in buying a less than one month old XFX 7900GS graphics card with bill and warranty?

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Never ever go for ViewSonic. Their monitors were quite VFM and of reasonable quality initially, but recently, their quality has dropped. My VA1912W is giving ghost image, and is in warranty, but still they are not ready to give replacement.

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Could be different experiences for different people. I bought a Viewsonic 1945 in 10/2007 and so far no problem (at least no problems visible to me).

On a different note, I am planning to buy a new assembled PC now. Can someone suggest what is the indicative price of Core 2 Quad 9450,9550, 9650. I can scavenge some parts from my old PC if possible, notably DVD writer, 500 GB HDD, NVIDIA 256 MB graphics, software, keyboard, mouse, etc).
I would need motherboard, processor, 3-4 GB RAM, another 500 GB HDD.

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^^^ theitwares.com should give you indicative prices.
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^^^ theitwares.com should give you indicative prices.
Good to know that there is such a site. At least, it will give me an idea when my assembler quotes me the price tomorrow.
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Suggestions please :

I want a HTPC but am confused abt processors (and mobo). The purpose is only to run PS3 media server/DLNA server and stream HD content to PS3 . Also , I want the config to work for more than 4 years.Will a c2d e7400 with intel dg35 ec (no other graphics card) work or do I need a quad core(phenom x4 , c2quad , phenom II x4) ?

The max budget for processor , HDD , mobo , SMPS , cabinet , RAM (2GB) is 20k .
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About Processor, I suggest you go for AMD Athlon X2 7820+ black Edition. It will cost around Rs. 3.7-3.9K.

About the mobo try Asus M3A78-EMH HDMI. It comes with HDMI port on board. Or try GA-MA78GPM-DS2H.
Asus will cost around 5.5-5.7K where as Gigabyte will cost around 6.1-6.2K.

However, Asus is not known for RMA, so watch out for that. Gigabyte and MSI do provide good RMA if trouble is there.

Its not entirely possible to work with DDR3 memory as the processors and mobo are expensive.
Best bet is to stick with DDR2.

1) Processor : AMD Athlon X2 7850+ Rs. 3800
2) Mobo : Asus Rs. 5800
3) RAM : Kingston DDR2 800MHz, 2 X 2 GB, Rs. 1800
4) SMPS : Iball Sprinter 600W, Rs. 3000
5) Cabinet : Iball Net-X, Rs. 1500 ( it will come with 400W SMPS ).
6) HDD : Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB, Rs. 2700
7) Optical Drive : LG DVD Writer, Rs. 1200

Total : Rs. 16800.

I recommend that you go for Phenom X3 8650 that will cost Rs. 4200.
If you go for this processor, then cost of set up will be Rs. 17200.

If you plan to go for Phenom X4 9650, the processor will cost you around 6600.
Total cost of set up will be Rs. 19600.
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