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Old 17th June 2009, 15:45   #391
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Well let me put it as simply as possible...ure assembler is an A##. I am now quite sure that he is installed a local brand PSU, so within a couple of months u can bid your whole investment goodbye...SO the first time u have a major surge in electricity or u actually stress the system, that PSU is going to blow and take ure system with it.
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Old 18th June 2009, 19:09   #392
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Hi All,

I am interested in buying a computer for home use and would like some suggestions from you all.

My budget is around INR 30k (can stretch by another 5k or so). The computer would be used mostly for "working from home" meaning most of the time would be spent on the internet.

Apart from this, i would be using the comp to download movies and music (legit stuff, of course, which will be burnt onto a disc as i dont want to clog the hard drive unless required).

I am also crazy about games like NFS, Call of Duty, Rainbow6, and other TPS / FPS games. Also would be using the comp for chatting with family abroad (video chat).

I will also be picking up a printer/scanner and backup power like an UPS or so.

As of now, I need suggestions on :

1. with the above requirements in mind, would it be wise to go for a laptop or a PC?

2. Can i get a config within the above mentioned budget which can support my gaming passion too? or is it wise to just get a basic PC and probably a PS3 later on sometime? I love the PS3 but the price is putting me off at least for now.

3. I would need a computer which would not need upgradation in the near future like 6 months at least.

4. If the choice is for a PC, it would be an assembled one.

5. Please also suggest options for a printer cum scanner (color) and UPS / inverter. The UPS / Inverter is only required to power the computer for a maximum of 2 hours. This so I can finish work within an hour when the power is down and have time to turn the system off. So i dont need backup power supply for hours which can be expensive.

Thanks in advance for all your inputs.
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Old 18th June 2009, 19:57   #393
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You basically need a PC with decent graphics card.

I would suggest a AMD based solution. Reason is excellent Performance/Cost trade-off.

Overall :

CPU + Motherboard :: 8,000
RAM (4 GB) :: 2,500
Graphics Card :: 5,000
HDD :: 3,000
DVD Writer :: 1,500
LCD 22 Inch :: 13,000
Mouse + Kbd :: 1,500
Cabinet :: 2,000
SMPS :: 800

Total ~36k

With Intel, you would need to add 5k to the cost of system.

But with your usage, it would be better to spend extra on LCD Monitor / More comfy Keyboard / Better Speaker (As compared to spending on CPU or Motherboard).

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Old 18th June 2009, 20:28   #394
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I would suggest a AMD based solution.

But with your usage, it would be better to spend extra on LCD Monitor / More comfy Keyboard / Better Speaker (As compared to spending on CPU or Motherboard).
Thanks for the reply.

Do i go for a laptop or a PC? the advantage with the laptop is that I would save on the UPS and will be able to lug it around and even connect it to my HT when gaming.

But doesn't a laptop has a "lower shelf life" meaning it cant be upgraded often and will be outdated in about 2 years?

Would high games like Call of Duty, Hitman, etc. work on a config such as below? I am told that in a laptop these games wouldnt work well and would hang often.

Could you also let me know the configuration spec's such as mother board brand and type (?), CPU speed (?) etc. Thanks again.

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Do i go for a laptop or a PC? the advantage with the laptop is that I would save on the UPS and will be able to lug it around and even connect it to my HT when gaming.

Laptop is more practical, but would not play these games at all (In sub 50,000 range).


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Would high games like Call of Duty, Hitman, etc. work on a config such as below? I am told that in a laptop these games wouldnt work well and would hang often.
Yes it would work just fine. If fact I would advice you to:

1. Not buy a Graphics card at first (saves you 5k)
2. If you see that you are not enjoying the games, then buy a Graphics card

This is the ONLY component that would determine quality of gameplay in a decent PC.

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Could you also let me know the configuration spec's such as mother board brand and type (?), CPU speed (?) etc. Thanks again.
Will post that later today.
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Old 18th June 2009, 21:33   #396
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Config with AMD


Base cost is around 33k.

Add 3k / 8k depending on the card you choose.

In my opinion, you need not buy a card initially.

EDIT : Watermark masked last two lines. Text there is:

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Old 18th June 2009, 22:46   #397
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Config with AMD

Base cost is around 33k.

Add 3k / 8k depending on the card you choose.
Thanks for the info Netfreak. I appreciate your prompt reply.

Will PM you if I need more help.

Thanx again.
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Old 22nd June 2009, 18:50   #398
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Hey Aditya / NetFreak,

I'd suggest a Core2Duo rather than an AMD Procc.

and a better graphics card [ATI HD4770 or better]

because the C2D is good enough for basic computer usage [surfing / word processing et al] + a better gfx card will be better for gaming.
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5. Please also suggest options for a printer cum scanner (color) and UPS / inverter. The UPS / Inverter is only required to power the computer for a maximum of 2 hours. This so I can finish work within an hour when the power is down and have time to turn the system off. So i dont need backup power supply for hours which can be expensive.
You look all set with the PC config - I agree with NetFreak's recomendations.

As for the printer scanner combo - look for something from Cannon. They have the best VFM options right now. Epson may look cheaper but it ends up costing more in the long run (issues with the ink drying up if not used regularly).

And the average UPS (2.5-3K budget ones) will give you only 15-30 min of backup. APC is a good brand.
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Old 22nd June 2009, 20:06   #400
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You basically need a PC with decent graphics card.

I would suggest a AMD based solution. Reason is excellent Performance/Cost trade-off.

Overall :

CPU + Motherboard :: 8,000
RAM (4 GB) :: 2,500
Graphics Card :: 5,000
HDD :: 3,000
DVD Writer :: 1,500
LCD 22 Inch :: 13,000
Mouse + Kbd :: 1,500
Cabinet :: 2,000
SMPS :: 800

Total ~36k

With Intel, you would need to add 5k to the cost of system.

But with your usage, it would be better to spend extra on LCD Monitor / More comfy Keyboard / Better Speaker (As compared to spending on CPU or Motherboard).
I bought one recently from the neighbourhood PC shop.

Intel Dualcore 2.5 GH CPU
Intel 945 GC motherboard
Seagate 320 GB SATA HDD
2GB DDR II RAM
LG 22X DVD RW
Samsung 18.5" TFT Widescreen monitor with DVI port
Microsoft wired KBD and Mouse
ATX cabinet with SMS
Creative 2.1 speakers with sub woofer
Creative Headphone with MIC
HP All in one printer 2180DJ (printer, scanner, copier)
HP Webcamera
All in one USB card reader
APC 500 VA UPS
C-Guard Spike Buster

Home Office Desk cum study table
Empire reclining, revolving wheeled chair

All together cost me ~ RS 39K
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Old 22nd June 2009, 22:45   #401
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39 K is decent price for this setup.

And its sufficient for general PC usage like Browsing / MS Office / Development.

However, CPU / Mobo in this setup is from older generation of Intel and will face issues with heavy loads. This wont be sufficient for games. I am not talking about latest and greatest games but games like War of duty / NFS.

And games would require a better SMPS due to higher wattage.


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Hey Aditya / NetFreak,

I'd suggest a Core2Duo rather than an AMD Procc.

and a better graphics card [ATI HD4770 or better]

because the C2D is good enough for basic computer usage [surfing / word processing et al] + a better gfx card will be better for gaming.
C2D + ATI HD4770 would definitely be more powerful machine.

But that would jack up cost by 10 -15. (Cotlier proc + costlier Mobo + Cost of Graphics card)

IMO, that money would be better spent on peripherals like bigger monitor / better speakers.

This setup should be sufficient for all games if a powerful Graphics card is added.

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AMD and Intel both have thier respective advantages and disadvantages. Recently another user " Vasudeva " got Core i7 setup. But he did not invest more on graphics and HDD. Hence he could manage.

But if you are planning to have HD 4770, then I did recommend AMD system ( NetFreak is correct here ). AMD tri core are ace here. You get three cores instead of two for the same amount.

If you are spending a lot on graphics, go for AMD mobo + processor. Else its Intel all the way.

I am not inclined on anyone as of now. I had a lot lot of experiences with both of them. Currently three systems at my place are Intel, Two are AMD and one is Cyrix.
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I would advice you to check out the acer aspire 6930 laptop
features -
16 inch widescreen display with full hd output via hdmi
320gb hdd
core2 duo 2.0 ghz processor
intel 4500hd graphics adapter
4 gb ddr2 ram
dvd writer
wlan
bluetooth
5.1 dolby home theater sound output with built in subwoofer
plus many more features like e-sata port etc

its a steal for rs 39990/-(got it at that price few months back dont know current price)
you can use it as a desktop as well as a laptop and for gaming
in fact i used to hate laptops previously but after purchasing this for my wife i spend more time on it than on my high end desktop

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My budget is around INR 30k (can stretch by another 5k or so).

"working from home"
download movies and music
games like NFS, Call of Duty, Rainbow6, and other TPS / FPS games.
chatting with family abroad (video chat).
printer/scanner and backup power like an UPS or so.

1. with the above requirements in mind, would it be wise to go for a laptop or a PC?

2. Can i get a config within the above mentioned budget which can support my gaming passion too? or is it wise to just get a basic PC and probably a PS3 later on sometime? I love the PS3 but the price is putting me off at least for now.

3. I would need a computer which would not need upgradation in the near future like 6 months at least.

4. If the choice is for a PC, it would be an assembled one.

5. Please also suggest options for a printer cum scanner (color) and UPS / inverter. The UPS / Inverter is only required to power the computer for a maximum of 2 hours. This so I can finish work within an hour when the power is down and have time to turn the system off. So i dont need backup power supply for hours which can be expensive.

Thanks in advance for all your inputs.
Are you an advanced pc user? If yes, get a Ps3 and install yellowdawg linux as dual boot.

It is within your budget with a blu-ray thrown in. Not porting or modifications required.

There are some major issues you may face though. Configuring wireless maybe a pain if you are a newbie.Ethernet works flawlessly though. Never tried to use a webcam though.
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My sister needs a new computer.

Internet.
MS Word and Excel.

Prefers a large LCD screen.

Can someone suggest the best config for this kind of use.

Does it make sense to buy a branded Dell Inspiron.
If I get it assembled, how much cheaper will it work out.
Legal s/w will it be expensive.
Since I don't think assembled will get it (s/w) bundled along.

Thanks,
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