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Old 18th December 2008, 15:38   #1
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BBC NEWS | Technology | Serious security flaw found in IE

A news I was waiting to hear
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Old 18th December 2008, 15:50   #2
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Well, the fact is that this is the most widely used web browser and hence we can come to know the flaws faster. Its not that firefox or Opera or Chrome are flawless.

And I am sure that future releases of IE will be much better.

And in India one has to use IE6 as it is probably the fastest web browser, more than even Chrome. I am myself having " Broadband " 150 kbps connection ( 3G is 2MBPs ), and sometimes I have to use IE6.

Apart from this if one is not visiting piracy sites for illegal content like OS, antivirus, etc, the chances of getting attacked are less.
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get the fix here. install and restart asap !
Download details: Security Update for Internet Explorer for Windows XP (KB960714)
BBC NEWS | Technology | Microsoft issues patch to fix IE
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Well, the fact is that this is the most widely used web browser and hence we can come to know the flaws faster. Its not that firefox or Opera or Chrome are flawless.
That is true, although Firefox is often updated with fixes faster.
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And I am sure that future releases of IE will be much better.
Are you? I'm not!

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And in India one has to use IE6 as it is probably the fastest web browser, more than even Chrome. I am myself having " Broadband " 150 kbps connection ( 3G is 2MBPs ), and sometimes I have to use IE6.
Even the occasions on which I have to use IE because a site has been developed by an MS-blinkered developer are very few these these days. Firefox does me very nicely. It is not just this issue; it has been my selected browser for years, and continues to be. MS including favourite features like tabbed browsing comes nowhere near tempting me away, and the arrival of Chrome does not even interest me. Perhaps you could say that I am wearing blinkers! It is my choice, and even on my 256K 'fraudband' connection I do not think that another browser's speed would be a big enough issue for me to change.
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Apart from this if one is not visiting piracy sites for illegal content like OS, antivirus, etc, the chances of getting attacked are less.
I'm afraid that I suspect that MS will always be bottom of the security heap.

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"In this case, hackers found the hole before Microsoft did," said Rick Ferguson, senior security advisor at Trend Micro. "This is never a good thing."
From the department of the obvious, eh?
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"I cannot recommend people switch due to this one flaw," said John Curran, head of Microsoft UK's Windows group.
From the department of he-would-say-that-wouldn't-he!

...But those of us who do not use IE, or even Windows, should never fall into the trap of thinking that that makes us safe...
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Stop using all Microsoft products

90% of all Micro$oft products have equivalent free Linux counterparts.
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Hail Linux! Been using it from the day I left India. Thanks to a Bhpian from Coimbatore.

Firefox does the best for me. Haven't used IE from the last 2 years or so.
The security flaws alone aren't a reason to move away from it.
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Old 18th December 2008, 16:45   #7
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same here,never liked IE anyways.

First 2 yrs in my career i used Opera and then started using firefox and happily ever after.

now got used to Firefox so much that it will be harder to move to something else if any security flaw found in Firefox too.

but still for people bashing IE,no software product can ever be without bugs.so take it easy.
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Are you? I'm not!

But those of us who do not use IE, or even Windows, should never fall into the trap of thinking that that makes us safe
I am sure they will improve. But you can term this as hope also.

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Hail Linux! Been using it from the day I left India. Thanks to a Bhpian from Coimbatore.
I dont agree here. There are huge issues with respect to hardware. I have faced them. Also the development tools are very less for free linux distros. Debian is too huge and I am facing hardware issue with Suse, Ubuntu, Fedora. What is want is that for development work, Windows is fine, but other than that for browsing, net using, etc. linux is fine. But I believe that Linux does 10% of what Windows does.

To update me, do Linux distros have any software like Visual Studio ? For 3D work, installing Maya itself is a pain.

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Firefox does the best for me. Haven't used IE from the last 2 years or so.
The security flaws alone aren't a reason to move away from it.
For slow internet connection, IE6 is better. I sometimes have to resort to Dialup through phone as I am not getting good services from my any ISP in my location.
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I am reminded of an old saying: those who have eaten Apples, don't like bananas.
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Hail Linux! Been using it from the day I left India. Thanks to a Bhpian from Coimbatore.

Firefox does the best for me. Haven't used IE from the last 2 years or so.
The security flaws alone aren't a reason to move away from it.
Chrome is the one for me. I dont agree with you on the linux part. For me its Mac + Safari or Windows + Chrome.
Combos rock.
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I don't know how Chrome is a good browser. No doubts is light and has good features but its total $h!t while loading big images and videos.

Also i use comodo firewall so i think if someone is using a firewall like comodo it will be hard for attacker to compromise your system.
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Old 19th December 2008, 02:34   #12
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Biggest advantage of using IE is that its able to save a webpage as it is, most of the time. Its .mht save option is great.
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Biggest advantage of using IE is that its able to save a webpage as it is, most of the time. Its .mht save option is great.
Firefox does it too (though as a file and a subdir). But w/o using a proprietary format, and in a way that even IE can open that file and render it as before.

Firefox bests IE in almost every respect. Its rock stable compared to IE, has much more customizability (try about:config), opensource addons, and frankly M$ was finally forced to update IE to IE7 because it started losing market share.
I even use a addon called IE tab, which allows me to open a particular page/link in IE within a firefox tab w/o ever invoking the IE application
- I can toggle from Firefox to IE and back
- I can set filters (for regular pesky sites), to auto use IE.

And it is more secure than IE due to the original arch/ design shortcomings of IE (M$ didn't consider security important in those days, only ease of use) - much has improved though. And which browser am I going to use for banking - the one which is 10x less likely to get cracked for vulnerabilities and the one which has probably a few times less vulnerabilities. Others can chose differently as they wish...

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Firefox rules..
I like it because I use a addon called greasemonkey which allows to run user scripts for any website. There are tons of freely available scripts for this addon which clean a website(remove unnecessary large banners/ads/images).
This is now my basic need for a browser. Without this I wont even try others (read chrome)
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There are many flaws discovered every other month. Latest being the Sonicwall Licensing Server glitch which left many networks vulnerable which were guarded by sonicwall products.

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I dont agree here. There are huge issues with respect to hardware. I have faced them. Also the development tools are very less for free linux distros. Debian is too huge and I am facing hardware issue with Suse, Ubuntu, Fedora. What is want is that for development work, Windows is fine, but other than that for browsing, net using, etc. linux is fine. But I believe that Linux does 10% of what Windows does.
10% is too less a figure. Linux does almost 80% of the work that can be done by Windows. Save for some very specialised applications and games.

We use Linux for everything in our office

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