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Old 3rd December 2009, 10:09   #5536
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Between the Sony Ericsson C901 and the Nokia N82, I would pick the N82.The N82 has 100 MB of internal memory, 128 MB RAM and can take a microSD card of up to 32GB.And camerawise the N82 beats the C901 hands down.
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Now I would like to still have a phone that looks and acts like a phone ..and since I often feel the need for a camera it might as well be a camera as well.
Is there an option better than the N82?
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Hi Navin Saar!

There was a recent discussion on the Thinkdigit forum. Conclusion, the nokia n95 has a camera module as good as the n82 (which I own), is better for SMSing (which I don't do), but is more expensive. I also use an htc tytn2 using the touchscreen panning to browse the 'net at redlights and loving it, but that's another story.

Compact cameras can never have as good lowlight abilities as DSLRs because of the small sensor size, but the s90 has as big a sensor as the g11. I would recommend it, but its IQ may be problematic (very visible CA), blown up to 42" lcd tv size. The other compacts use a technique called "binning" (combining 4 photosite output to form a virtual pixel, or in Fuiji's Superccd sensor, 7 hexagonal photosites), but it plays havoc with the resolution, 3mp vs 10mp. I'm going to try my tz7 sd card in a near future Panny G10 plasma, but my expectations are low. My son will be picking up a Panny gf1 or Oly e-p1 for me next week, so that should turn out better.

Hope this helped.
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why dont you try a n79?its a great buy with full package.
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Conclusion, the nokia n95 has a camera module as good as the n82

Compact cameras can never have as good lowlight abilities as DSLRs because of the small sensor size, but the s90 has as big a sensor as the g11. I would recommend it, but its IQ may be problematic (very visible CA), blown up to 42" lcd tv size.

My son will be picking up a Panny gf1 or Oly e-p1 for me next week, so that should turn out better.
Thanks Proton. Obviously I do NOT expect a camera phone to have the optics or IQ of a good P&S (leave alone any DSLR). The object of getting a camera phone was that it is often I am found without my DSLR or even the P&S. The camera phone has a greater chance of being available.

Budget (at my age) is really not a constraint (sorry if this sounds bombastic - dont mean it to sound so) what I would really like is to get a good phone (read as reliable, numerc keypad, voice quality etc) that also takes as good an image as one can expect from a camera phone. Yes I would prefer to choose between Sony or Nokia only becuase I have used their products but am open to ANY suggestion.

My current phone is the Sony G900 and my wife uses the Nokia N96. I do not find the IQ of either of these to be great. in low light their CA is terrible. Is there anything that is signifcantly better? There ought to be!

That said the S90 has it's problems but given it size (the G9/10/11, LX3, GF1, Oly-PEN are all much larger). The LX3 is really very close but the lens that sticks out makes it not something you can stick in your jeans pocket. The Leica C-LUX3 might it's closeest competitor (in the price range) but it does not have Apature/Shutter controls but hey nothing beats the feeling of having the 'red leica logo' in your pocket!

BTW if you are looking at the Pen or GF1 also look at the Sigma DP1s (but this is a topic for another thread) or (if your last name ends in Rockerfeller) the X1.

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why dont you try a n79?its a great buy with full package.
What package? The Blackberry will be an office phone and part of a larger office package from Vodaphone. My personal phone (camera-voice-SMS phone) will continue to have the same number/SIM card as it has now.
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why dont you try a n79?its a great buy with full package.
The n95 8gb with single led is a proven performer. The n97 with a double led flash has known issues with blown highlights. I expect the n79 with its similar double led flash to have the same problem.

Crazy to think that the n82 (which I own and have posted shots of on the DSLR thread) is still top dog with its xenon flash even after 5 years of introduction. If nokia doesn't pull up its socks it will soon lose that position to the Samsung omnia HD (too bad about its omled screen only has a virtual keyboard and too bad about issues with apps).

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Budget (at my age) is really not a constraint (sorry if this sounds bombastic - dont mean it to sound so)

LOL, tell me about it. As long as you don't indulge in high performance superbikes. A T-BHP member, whose name will remain private, recently pranged his new bike and was intent on selling it here from his hospital bed. It would have been funny, if it had not been so sad and predictable.

Statistics show that the highest number of superbike casualties are from the age group of 50-60: high disposable income, near nil responsibilities and itching to fulfil teenage aspirations !

Add to that mix the huge bhp on tap, reduced coordination and reflexes and you have a recipe for disaster!

In my case my kids are earnin' and itchin' to spoil their daddy!

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Deciding between 2 phones for myself. Planning to upgrade from my old HTC Touch.

Have narrowed down to the new HTC Tattoo running on the v1.6 Android OS and the HTC Diamond 1st gen.

Budget is below 20K.

So should I go the Android way?
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Deciding between 2 phones for myself. Planning to upgrade from my old HTC Touch.

Have narrowed down to the new HTC Tattoo running on the v1.6 Android OS and the HTC Diamond 1st gen.

Budget is below 20K.

So should I go the Android way?
go for android, you will love the loads of application,free stuff available for download.There is free app for almost everything in android market.

EDIT : i have not used the Tattoo , but i have used HTC hero and HTC magic (android phones) extensively , was very happy with both.

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Crazy to think that the n82 (which I own and have posted shots of on the DSLR thread) is still top dog with its xenon flash even after 5 years of introduction.
Is a Xenon flash still superior to the LED flash? This article has been reproduced on many a website (how much of it is just marketing?)
Why Nokia N82 is the Best Camera-phone Ever

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Statistics show that the highest number of superbike casualties are from the age group of 50-60: high disposable income, near nil responsibilities and itching to fulfil teenage aspirations !
Ha ha tell me about this. Thankfully better sense prevailed in our case. We got a 1974 Triumph Spitfire 1500 sitting in my godfather's garage for just this purpose. If you ever see a grey haired couple in a blue spitfire (open top) you now know who they are.

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So should I go the Android way?
Viddy. Are these Android phones really reliable? To me they seem to have a life of their own. one reason why I eliminated phones like this one from my list
full touch and slide up keypad with super bright AMOLED screen SAMSUNG Ultra Touch - Megapixel Phone - Mobile Phone | SAMSUNG

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Navin, The Samsung running on their own UI's are very quirky. I have hardly read any poor reviews on the Android phones.

I've been using Windows mobile first gen HTC touch and have had no problems for 2 years.

Now I cant get down to using a non touch screen phone. If there are 10 items to select on the screen, I have to press multiple buttons to select whereas in touch screen just click what i want.

Android v1.6 is supposedly very stable compared to the 1st version which was very iffy.
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Viddy. Are these Android phones really reliable? To me they seem to have a life of their own. one reason why I eliminated phones like this one from my list

full touch and slide up keypad with super bright AMOLED screen SAMSUNG Ultra Touch - Megapixel Phone - Mobile Phone | SAMSUNG
I guess this is down to Samsung as a manufacturer. HTC seems to be constantly releasing updates to its skinned version of Android atleast for the HTC Hero.

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EDIT : i have not used the Tattoo , but i have used HTC hero and HTC magic (android phones) extensively , was very happy with both.
One thing I read in the HTC Tattoo reviews is that it has an odd screen resolution so the apps in the android market available to this handset might be limited.
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One thing I read in the HTC Tattoo reviews is that it has an odd screen resolution so the apps in the android market available to this handset might be limited.
I don't know about HTC Android offering in other phones but Tattoo display specs seems to be alright. 2.8-inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with 240x320 QVGA resolution
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I don't know about HTC Android offering in other phones but Tattoo display specs seems to be alright. 2.8-inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with 240x320 QVGA resolution
Oh, what I meant was an odd screen resolution in comparison to the dominant (HTC) Andriod screen resolution in the market - 3.2-inch TFT-LCD flat touch-sensitive screen with 320x480 HVGA resolution in the Hero and Magic. It is also a resistive touch screen vs the capacitive screen in the other HTC androids. I think the review was on gsmarena

Apart from that, I really think it a very very VFM android phone at only ~18K.

I want to somehow get my hands on a working piece for a few minutes before making up my mind. I'd almost plonked on the Nokia 5800 in jan, but a few minutes with a dealers phone changed my mind.
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Is a Xenon flash still superior to the LED flash? This article has been reproduced on many a website (how much of it is just marketing?)
Why Nokia N82 is the Best Camera-phone Ever



Ha ha tell me about this. Thankfully better sense prevailed in our case. We got a 1974 Triumph Spitfire 1500 sitting in my godfather's garage for just this purpose. If you ever see a grey haired couple in a blue spitfire (open top) you now know who they are.
See for yourself:
Photos: Nights out with the Nokia N97 (with Nokia N82 comparison samples) My Nokia Blog

You would think that gear gets better with every new iteration, but that's not always the case. Case in point, the Gazel was such a disappointment after the Standard (Triumph) Herald. People would kill to get their hands on THAT car: the kinds of mods and FRP body kits you could put on the standalone chassis was unbelievable... shades of the Beetle! Enjoy the Spit.

Even now, people sell their Fuji 70exr and pay almost double for a good copy of the Fuji 31fd.

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Oh, what I meant was an odd screen resolution in comparison to the dominant (HTC) Andriod screen resolution in the market - 3.2-inch TFT-LCD flat touch-sensitive screen with 320x480 HVGA resolution in the Hero and Magic. It is also a resistive touch screen vs the capacitive screen in the other HTC androids. I think the review was on gsmarena

Apart from that, I really think it a very very VFM android phone at only ~18K.

I want to somehow get my hands on a working piece for a few minutes before making up my mind. I'd almost plonked on the Nokia 5800 in jan, but a few minutes with a dealers phone changed my mind.
IMHO 5800 is not at all a good phone.

HTC Tattoo looks great VFM, but they could have added a LED Flash for camera.
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the n82 which i use is probably the best camera phone available from nokia's stable.photo quality is brilliant and people do envy my night photos compared to their swanky new n97s etc.
as mentioned in the blog posted the biggest mistake i did was updating the phone which totally screwed up the battery life and made the phone rather unstable.

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