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Old 15th February 2011, 14:14   #7756
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Android is Linux and iPhone is Unix (BSD). You can open command prompt and fire away shell scripts on both.

This aspect is taken care of in hardware. A separate chip (called "baseband") does voice. So app usage should not impact voice.

Consider UPS/Fedex/DHL, they has to invest serious money into building handheld devices that could capture delivery of shipments. Now they can purchase an android/iOS device off the shelf and install their software on this.
For Logistics, Retail, etc.. using the mobile phone as a platform (instead of RFID or other technologies) is a huge advantage. So that is ONE very good use of Android.

What is the best Android phone with a QWERTY keypad in the market right now? I want to try one. Untill I do I cannot contribute much to this discussion na?

Samsung Galaxy/Armani or Morotola Milestone or something else?

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... Consider UPS/Fedex/DHL, they has to invest serious money into building handheld devices ...
Now they can purchase an android/iOS device off the shelf and install their software on this.
Errr... That sounds like a comparison between meat-balls and oranges. Both are spherical, but usage considerations are different. Bespoke, focused-use devices are designed and constructed completely differently.

Try taking the best android / iOS device and put it to the same usage duty cycle - you will be left with pieces in your hand in a month. Forget driving the operators up the wall with lack of ergonomics. Would you like to try the 'bar-code scanner' in mobile phones and look at the rate of success in scanning via camera?
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Motorola Milestone 2, checks all the boxes including full QWERTY.

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Bespoke, focused-use devices are designed and constructed completely differently.
And priced accordingly too. Android devices are being piloted for this specific purpose (shipments) as we speak.

Of course, it not just cell phone + camera as bar code reader.

With android, they can buy :

1. TI OMAP + voice
2. OS + baseband
3. Better GPS

off the shelf.

And then add:

ruggedized housing
signature + bar code capture HW

And still save BIG $$$ amounts.

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Would you like to try the 'bar-code scanner' in mobile phones and look at the rate of success in scanning via camera?
For me the success rate ACTUALLY is

100%

Cheers

P.S Success rate as per accuracy of results
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Motorola Milestone 2, checks all the boxes including full QWERTY.
I was going to test one when the dealer told me "Navin-sahib yeh phone nahin chalta". So I asked him ""Kya chalta hai" and he answered "iPhone aur BlackBerry".

What about this Samsung device?
Versatile Power of touch - Omnia Pro B7610 - Touch Phone - Mobile Phone | SAMSUNG

What happened to the Armani phone. It is in the local market but not on Samsung's website? Are the phones in the market discontinued stock?
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Stay away from Omnia, hardware is a suspect. Try out HTC Androids much better handsets.
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Yes its not as popular as blackberry or iPhone.

make sure its "Milestone 2"

its strengths are :
1. 1 GHz CPU
2. 1 GB RAM
3. Solid metal body
4. Excellent voice reception
5. Keyboard

Negatives:
1. No root access on command line
2. After market accessories not easily available

That Samsung phone runs Windows Mobile.
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I would put more weight on the compatibility than OS in general. MOtorola for eg has adopted Micro-USB ports and 3.5mm and HDMI ports for long.Also their Android versions are the most up to date.

Apple on the other hand is late to the party.

What use if OS is supported but hardware is not? for eg various new phones come with USB 3.0.

One more reason to go with Android for me.
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May be off the topic , When i walked into a popular eating joing called Nala's Appa Kadai in Annanagar they were using the IPOD touch for order taking .

For smaller and dedicated such use I guess such devices can be done easily and cost effectively
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Apple on the other hand is late to the party.

What use if OS is supported but hardware is not? for eg various new phones come with USB 3.0.

One more reason to go with Android for me.
That depends on the situation. E.g. most car stereo systems would have iPhone connectivity that would enable user to browse/play songs from car's remote.

Similarly, HDMI AVR that i bought has connectivity for iPhone/iPod.

With other phones, user would be limited to Line out for such connectivity.
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That depends on the situation. E.g. most car stereo systems would have iPhone connectivity that would enable user to browse/play songs from car's remote.

Similarly, HDMI AVR that i bought has connectivity for iPhone/iPod.

With other phones, user would be limited to Line out for such connectivity.
With iPOD out functionality which will be refined further, there are much more options coming out in the future.
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BTW : As per my info Google just has less then 100 people in technical team for Android. The Armies of engineers actually are in regiments of OEMs who develop features as per road-map and also do bug fixing while their productization.
The Google team ( known to world as nick name Google Code Inspector) does review and provide comments and decide if a patch should be included or not.
So control for release management is dictatorial and closed unlike Linux.
Google at least has 100; in Linux, there is just one - Linus Torvalds.

He decides what goes into mainline kernel tree. Others have their own trees.
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That depends on the situation. E.g. most car stereo systems would have iPhone connectivity that would enable user to browse/play songs from car's remote.

Similarly, HDMI AVR that i bought has connectivity for iPhone/iPod.

With other phones, user would be limited to Line out for such connectivity.
Try synching Iphone with any Linux Distro.

But then the after market support for Iphone is uber fantastic.

Something that WebOS lost out on leading to the sale to HP. HP it is said is working day and night to beat Apple. the TOuchpad looks awesome though.

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Try synching Iphone with any Linux Distro.
How is that related to hardware?

BTW iTunes work just fine on WINE on Linux.
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Google at least has 100; in Linux, there is just one - Linus Torvalds.

He decides what goes into mainline kernel tree. Others have their own trees.
doesn't that make mainline kernel obsolete?
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