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Old 6th August 2012, 06:44   #1066
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Ive noticed similar sluggishness when my Hdd is full. When i move a couple of files over to my external hdd everything becomes fast again.

A lot of people have upgraded to SSDs and have got great performance gains.

Another thing you can do is a clean install of your os or perhaps even install mountain lion while youre at it.
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Old 6th August 2012, 10:55   #1067
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I'm finding my 2 month old Mac Book Pro to be slow. Is there any reason as to why it should be soo unresponsive at times? Is there anything that I could do? I have a 4GB of RAM and I'm wondering why it is not enough. For the same capacity, infact with a lesser RAM, my Lenovo T410s is much faster and responsive. I'm slowly getting fed up with my MBP. Anyone having any idea on how to improve the performance on my MPB?
1. You menton that it is soo unresponsive "at times" - I suggest you then start by looking at activity monitor during these times and see whether you are CPU bound. Memory bound or I/O bound. Look at top offenders by sorting on CPU usage and Disk I/O and start quitting them one by one till you get acceptable performance. Since your MBP is 2 months old, I wouldnt think you would be reached your hard drive limits.

2. During these slowdown times, open the system console at look at the log messages. (system.log - it will usually have pointers to what is going wrong).

3. check spotlight indexing through preferences and see if it is still indexing something which it should not.

4. If you are a heavy chrome user, there is a tendency of conflicts of flash plugins slowing down the whole system- this should show as an "unresponsive shockwave plugin" on your activity monitor.

5. A safe reboot (google it) will clear off your drive cache.

6. Desktop folder has had some issues - if you use use shift-command-4 type of thing quite a lot you may have a lot of files on your desktop - I have seen some improvements if you keep desktop clean

7. as mentioned by someone, if you find Finder or boot time slowing down (excessive cpu utilization), it is a pointer for file permission problems - disk repair utilities can be run (I never had this problem - but I have heard about this)


PS: I do all my development on 4GB RAM MBP using all kinds of crap - Ruby, JVMs, Hadoop, Eclipse, MySQL, storm and concurrent Garageband - and it works much better than an equiv Windows 7 machine. If you are a casual/average user, then this is more than enough for you.
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1. You menton that it is soo unresponsive "at times" - I suggest you then start by looking at activity monitor during these times and see whether you are CPU bound. Memory bound or I/O bound. Look at top offenders by sorting on CPU usage and Disk I/O and start quitting them one by one till you get acceptable performance. Since your MBP is 2 months old, I wouldnt think you would be reached your hard drive limits.

2. During these slowdown times, open the system console at look at the log messages. (system.log - it will usually have pointers to what is going wrong).

3. check spotlight indexing through preferences and see if it is still indexing something which it should not.

4. If you are a heavy chrome user, there is a tendency of conflicts of flash plugins slowing down the whole system- this should show as an "unresponsive shockwave plugin" on your activity monitor.

5. A safe reboot (google it) will clear off your drive cache.

6. Desktop folder has had some issues - if you use use shift-command-4 type of thing quite a lot you may have a lot of files on your desktop - I have seen some improvements if you keep desktop clean

7. as mentioned by someone, if you find Finder or boot time slowing down (excessive cpu utilization), it is a pointer for file permission problems - disk repair utilities can be run (I never had this problem - but I have heard about this)


PS: I do all my development on 4GB RAM MBP using all kinds of crap - Ruby, JVMs, Hadoop, Eclipse, MySQL, storm and concurrent Garageband - and it works much better than an equiv Windows 7 machine. If you are a casual/average user, then this is more than enough for you.
You are right, the Flash plugin is is often the plugin and for some reason it crashes more with Chrome, that's why I switched to Firefox long back.
Not to mention the slowing effect of Chrome when multi tabs are opened (10+), if the plugin crashes Chrome starts reloading all pages at once unlike Firefox.

I also use the book for dev on eclipse but there are several plugins which I need to use which hog up cpu utilization and slows the whole OS.
But nevertheless bash works great and never faced any issue in it. Whether I am running jvm, sshing etc.

4GB ram is the bare minimum needed to truly utilize a 64bit machine.

Due to frequent observed sluggishness due to eclipse, our company is upgrading all the books to 8GB ram.
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Old 7th August 2012, 13:37   #1069
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Hi people. I have a 21.5" late 2009 model iMac with 3.06 MHz core 2 duo intel processor and 4GB RAM, 500 GB HDD. Recently upgraded to Mountain Lion and the responsiveness has gone down (basically get to see the mac cartwheel more often now). Especially in the case of iTunes and iPhoto, this happens more often. Also, any kind of 'Preferences' window takes about a couple or more seconds to open. Do you think a RAM upgrade would be required? I was checking online and an 8 GB add-on seems to be costing Rs.3800 on ebay. Anyone who can share their experiences?
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You are right, the Flash plugin is is often the plugin and for some reason it crashes more with Chrome, that's why I switched to Firefox long back.
Not to mention the slowing effect of Chrome when multi tabs are opened (10+), if the plugin crashes Chrome starts reloading all pages at once unlike Firefox.

I also use the book for dev on eclipse but there are several plugins which I need to use which hog up cpu utilization and slows the whole OS.
But nevertheless bash works great and never faced any issue in it. Whether I am running jvm, sshing etc.

4GB ram is the bare minimum needed to truly utilize a 64bit machine.

Due to frequent observed sluggishness due to eclipse, our company is upgrading all the books to 8GB ram.
If you attend any Java conference in US, I can assure you that 90% of people carry MBP. It seems to be the machine of choice. If you go through most documentation with screenshots (any OSS project - they would be mac's). JVM optimization esp Eclipse can be done but requires some expertise. and yes, one of the real cool thing for oldies like me who were brought up on vi is the terminal itself - cant live without it.
I was considering buying new MBP instead of upgrading memory next trip to US.
Chrome - cannot live without it. Till new safari came along it was still the best feature wise - with it being available on iPAD - it was making life very simple. I think for heavy javascript developers, you cannot ignore chrome as it still has the best js execution engine and debugging support. I just make it a point not to open any flash content on chrome anymore as inspite of plugin cleanups - the clashes continues as either the O/S or the browser downloads a new version and screws it up.
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As we speak I am downloading my free upgrade to Mountain Lion on my one month new MacBook Air. (The new version which was just released)

It is taking abominably long to download - a few hours so far.
Does it really take that much time to download this 4.34GB OS update?



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Finally I upgraded my Mac OS to Mountain Lion. The upgrade process was a breeze. After downloading the update it only took 15 minutes to install the update. All the files were there where they were earlier. est everything looks ok as of now. Didnt get a chance to spend much time with the OS. Safari feels improved. Notes and Reminder shortcuts on Dock.

I will dig slightly deeper for icloud integration and the iMessage thing. Will keep you guys posted.

Guys anybody has anything for audirvana please direct me to the right path.

Upgradation process was way much easier and simpler than windows. Also I did not notice any noticeable increase in used disk space in my hard disk after the upgrade.
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Old 7th August 2012, 15:44   #1072
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As we speak I am downloading my free upgrade to Mountain Lion on my one month new MacBook Air. (The new version which was just released)

It is taking abominably long to download - a few hours so far.
Does it really take that much time to download this 4.34GB OS update?
yes it does. Mostly based on your internet speed. but about 2-3 hours. make sure not to disrupt it though
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As we speak I am downloading my free upgrade to Mountain Lion on my one month new MacBook Air. (The new version which was just released)

It is taking abominably long to download - a few hours so far.
Does it really take that much time to download this 4.34GB OS update?
Well it didnt take that much long for me. It took around 2 - 2.5 hours to download the whole thing. I think this will depend on the Internet connection you have plus the load on Apple's servers. I have a Airtel 4 MBPS connection.
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If you attend any Java conference in US, I can assure you that 90% of people carry MBP. It seems to be the machine of choice. If you go through most documentation with screenshots (any OSS project - they would be mac's). JVM optimization esp Eclipse can be done but requires some expertise. and yes, one of the real cool thing for oldies like me who were brought up on vi is the terminal itself - cant live without it.
I was considering buying new MBP instead of upgrading memory next trip to US.
Chrome - cannot live without it. Till new safari came along it was still the best feature wise - with it being available on iPAD - it was making life very simple. I think for heavy javascript developers, you cannot ignore chrome as it still has the best js execution engine and debugging support. I just make it a point not to open any flash content on chrome anymore as inspite of plugin cleanups - the clashes continues as either the O/S or the browser downloads a new version and screws it up.
Same here. I work too on Java / IntelliJ / mongoDB / Tomcat / Firefox. Once I have all this up and running, that is why I face this slugishness and unresponsiveness from my machine.

You are right, I have been to a couple of conferences and I see many people have MBP's. In fact that was also one of the reason why I bought this MBP. I will try all what you have listed and see if it helps. If not, would upgrade the RAM to 8GB.

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Sorry for chaining my post. I would need to have some suggestions on buying a HDD that would work as a Time Machine backup. I would prefer to buy the 2.5 inch model. Can I buy any HDD and use it out of the box or do I have to format it to HFS file format and then use it. What are your experiences in doing so. Is it recommended or better get a HDD targetted for Mac OS X itself like the one from Western Digital? Suggestions please!
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Tremendous memory usage by Chrome when running on the mac. Any fixes for this? I'm on the latest version of Chrome and on the Lion OS.
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Tremendous memory usage by Chrome when running on the mac. Any fixes for this? I'm on the latest version of Chrome and on the Lion OS.
Stopped using chrome. But there's this process called vnetd which doesnt seem to ring many bells on the internet when searched...which hogs the hell out of my memory now and then when using any browser (i sense this being linked to flash content, but I dont know for sure).

I use activity monitor to kill the process, but sometimes it just comes back on. My air goes into overdrive and battery drops by half, and the CPU usage is an insane 95%!

Used the symantec guide which seemed to be the only place with some dope on it, and couldnt find anything related to vnetd using their commands on the terminal.

Any help?
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I have an early 2011, 13 inch MBP. I need some help on which cable to buy to connect my MBP to a VGA projector. I've been reading up on the net that certain cables work only with certain models. Can someone help me out regarding this?
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I have an early 2011, 13 inch MBP. I need some help on which cable to buy to connect my MBP to a VGA projector. I've been reading up on the net that certain cables work only with certain models. Can someone help me out regarding this?
This is what you need. http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...to-vga-adapter

Try to find it on ebay, you might get it cheaper.
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I'm finding my 2 month old Mac Book Pro to be slow. Is there any reason as to why it should be soo unresponsive at times? Is there anything that I could do? I have a 4GB of RAM and I'm wondering why it is not enough. For the same capacity, infact with a lesser RAM, my Lenovo T410s is much faster and responsive. I'm slowly getting fed up with my MBP. Anyone having any idea on how to improve the performance on my MPB?
I have the same problem. My late 2011 MBP 13 incher runs slow with 4GB RAM onboard, while my T410 runs super with 3GB RAM onboard! Dont know what gives, I will be upgrading to Mountain Lion if that sorts it out though, Or I will have to get more memory I guess :-(
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